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Old 04-13-2007, 10:58 AM
DesertCat DesertCat is offline
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Default Re: Financial myths which are untrue

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Old 04-13-2007, 02:34 PM
NajdorfDefense NajdorfDefense is offline
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Default Re: Financial myths which are untrue

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I don't think that randomness in payouts precludes it from being a constant sum game. Poker is a constant sum game(zero sum if there is no rake) even though the payouts are probabilistic. What I mean specifically by constant sum is that the sum of the payoffs for all players is the same for all strategies. Regardless, I don't think the stock market is a constant sum game, but I'm interested if there is an argument to that effect as I'm ignorant of economics.

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it's not a constant sum game. innovation doesn't occur at a constant rate.

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I guess I'm not articulating well enough. Is the trading of stocks a constant sum game--is one trader's gain above the average return a loss for the rest of the traders in the market?

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While Alpha must always = 0 in the market, both sides of a stock trade can be positive-sum. However, one person will be gaining more alpha than the other.
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