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Old 04-17-2007, 01:52 AM
Deveroast78 Deveroast78 is offline
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Default Re: Good FREE website with Omaha starting hand info?

Ah-Kh vs. 2s2c?
I believe it is advantage AKs, by <1%.

Ah-Kh 50.08%
2s-2c 49.92%

.16%...pretty close.
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Old 04-17-2007, 02:52 AM
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Newp... it's a lot more obscure than that.
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Old 04-17-2007, 05:48 AM
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hint, then?
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Old 04-17-2007, 07:48 AM
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As well as having 4 cards with synergy, the other important concept is having a hand that can build the nuts. This is because simple equity isn't the whole story: You need a hand that has some implied odds to hit a monster and get really paid off.

The very strongest hands are thus those that have synergy and multiple nut potential. A small part of the reason is that you have a little bit of preflop equity. However, the main reason they are so powerful is that you can flop massively (big straight draws, set+NFD, etc), and be happy getting the money in as a decent favourite against other good hands.
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Old 04-17-2007, 09:00 AM
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Along those lines, I was having a friendly disagreement w/ my brother about a hand I played in a homegame ages ago, before I really knew much of anything about Omaha. K-K-T-T dbl suited, hearts and clubs as I recall, flopped a set of Kings AND set of tens (the latter being useless, naturally) and losing to a broadway straight completed on the turn. My side of the argument was that with so many of the high cards out of the remaining deck the Jack on the turn made a straight slightly less but not altogether unlikely, as it was a table of amateurs (myself included) and any A-Q-x-x hand would probably look good if you were used to Hold'em. My brother's and several other players contention is that somehow my pocket tens there had some sort of implicit value b/c they acted as blockers for someone else to have a straight, when, as I see it, whether I had pocket tens or not one of them hit the board and ended up killing my top set.

BTW, at the time I considered KKTTds to be a monster of a hand preflop but after doing a bit of research on Omaha I found it was not that much of a favorite over many other hands and learned of the speculative nature of Omaha hands before the flop.
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Old 04-17-2007, 01:53 PM
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horrible advice, that's how to be utterly transparent with how you play. Raise any playable hand on the button, any playable hand 1 or 2 off the button, limp call any playable hand from early. Fold everything else.

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Horrible advice.

That's how to be utterly transparent with how you play.

Shortstacks will own you.

As you can see, there are many factors to consider and it's just not possible for anyone to sum up a complete Omaha strategy in a couple of sentences.
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Old 04-17-2007, 02:02 PM
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horrible advice, that's how to be utterly transparent with how you play. Raise any playable hand on the button, any playable hand 1 or 2 off the button, limp call any playable hand from early. Fold everything else.

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Horrible advice.
Shortstacks will own you.


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LOL, shortstacks do nothing of the sort, ever. They lose, that's why they buy in short. Stop moronically quoting crap Slotboom talks about and go find out for yourself.
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Old 04-17-2007, 03:30 PM
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LOL, shortstacks do nothing of the sort, ever. They lose, that's why they buy in short. Stop moronically quoting crap Slotboom talks about and go find out for yourself.

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Wow.

You think Slotbloom is/was a losing player then?

As for myself, I have tried his strategies against straight forward, non-thinking players such as yourself and it works like a charm. Many players (such as yourself) just don't realize that you need to change your style of play when a shortstack sits directly on your right with the intention of LRRing you often. You can't continue to blindly "raise any playable hand" in LP and not give them a tremendous advantage.

It amazes me that people could be this clueless, but it also makes me happy.
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Old 04-17-2007, 04:04 PM
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AKo AKo T2 with one of each suit from the AK
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Old 04-23-2007, 05:25 AM
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Which two unique hold em hands have the closest equity heads-up preflop? By unique, I mean no 77 vs 77, Q3d vs Q3s, etc...

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Without wasting too much time I came up with

9h 7h 847343 49.49 846370 49.43 18591 1.09 0.500
5s 5c 846370 49.43 847343 49.49 18591 1.09 0.500
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