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Old 04-05-2007, 08:02 AM
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Default Re: akss in position facing reraise from the blinds...seems close to m

Surely villain's pf three-betting range is wider than this? They're pretty deep.

Obviously, hero's image is important but his CO opening range has to be wide enough that three-betting for 10% has to show a profit with a wide range here?
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Old 04-05-2007, 08:52 AM
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Default Re: akss in position facing reraise from the blinds...seems close to m

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hmm.. putting myself in Mattg's shoes..

I would reraise only with AK/ QQ+, against some opps maybe 10/10+ , i'm typically trying to get more money in the pot here when I do this..

so action to us: we have AK's which means we are either going for a split pot or are behind vs AA/KK, on a race against QQ/JJ/TT,

your shove shouts out AK so if he has AK he has to call, he will also call With AA, most likely with KK/QQ

why is a shove then a good option ?

calling seems awfull.

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is there an opinion in this post?
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Old 04-05-2007, 09:10 AM
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Default Re: akss in position facing reraise from the blinds...seems close to m

IMO, pushing is the best play. If this guy is a very strong TAG, he's gonna be restealing a moderate amount here (my guess is somewhere around 20%, maybe more). Of course, it's been stated that if we get called, we're coinflipping at best. I'd say that's mostly true, although we are giving villain a chance to make a bad play with AQ or the like. Still negligible though. But I think it's clear that pushing>>folding.

I think raising less than 4.5K (to put villain all in) is out of the question. Another raise is going to have at least half of effective stacks in the pot already, so we might as well shove if we're gonna raise.

The question then becomes whether calling is the best. I think no. To be profitable here, we're gonna have to shove a lot of flops we don't want to shove, and that's IF he doesn't shove first, which is a big problem, and he'll shove first often enough that we're not looking good.

I push.
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Old 04-05-2007, 09:13 AM
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Default Re: akss in position facing reraise from the blinds...seems close to m

Call or reraise to 3k are the only options I see.
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Old 04-05-2007, 09:14 AM
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Default Re: akss in position facing reraise from the blinds...seems close to m

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hmm.. putting myself in Mattg's shoes..

I would reraise only with AK/ QQ+, against some opps maybe 10/10+ , i'm typically trying to get more money in the pot here when I do this..

so action to us: we have AK's which means we are either going for a split pot or are behind vs AA/KK, on a race against QQ/JJ/TT,

your shove shouts out AK so if he has AK he has to call, he will also call With AA, most likely with KK/QQ

why is a shove then a good option ?

calling seems awfull.

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is there an opinion in this post?

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well instead of just giving opinions Id rather ask a questions and discuss as to why an action is preferred over another.
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Old 04-05-2007, 09:18 AM
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Default Re: akss in position facing reraise from the blinds...seems close to m

looks like general consensus here is to shoove.. even when this means you are behind..

20% change to get him to fold
40 % we are behind against aces/kings
40% change for a coinflip or being marginally ahead.

somehow pushing doenst seem right.. but I cant turn this into math.. anyone care to take a shot at it?
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Old 04-05-2007, 09:59 AM
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Default Re: akss in position facing reraise from the blinds...seems close to m

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Call or reraise to 3k are the only options I see.

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mind to eleborate on this ?
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Old 04-05-2007, 10:24 AM
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Default Re: akss in position facing reraise from the blinds...seems close to m

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looks like general consensus here is to shoove.. even when this means you are behind..

20% change to get him to fold
40 % we are behind against aces/kings
40% change for a coinflip or being marginally ahead.

somehow pushing doenst seem right.. but I cant turn this into math.. anyone care to take a shot at it?

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Are you saying that 40% of the time villain has AA or KK?
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Old 04-05-2007, 11:06 AM
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Default Re: akss in position facing reraise from the blinds...seems close to m

yes..thats my view on it
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Old 04-05-2007, 11:17 AM
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yes..thats my view on it

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So, 40% of the time a "very strong TAG" raises the CO open of a strong aggressive player he has AA or KK? Your range is incredibly tight.

As for the hand, I shove because I would be shoving AQ+, probably 99+, and maybe some other random bluffs.
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