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#31
03-26-2007, 10:52 PM
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Re: Tiger Woods, just as an amateur, Casey Martin
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1) All those saying Tiger is the second best ever is misreading the OP. It asks if he ONLY had an amateur career. E.g., he died in 1996. Obviously he wouldn't be considered 2nd best of all time had he died in 1996. 2) All those mentioning being tired after walking 18 holes, I thought it was a given that Martin, even with the cart, was more tired after 18 holes because of his disease. [/ QUOTE ] #2 is irrelevant to the conversation and can't be measured anyaway. 
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#32
03-26-2007, 11:12 PM
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Re: Tiger Woods, just as an amateur, Casey Martin
Mentioned once but not again, professional golfers are such bitches that they want complete silence to hit a stationary object. Martin should have the cart just to [censored] with them.
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#34
03-27-2007, 09:42 AM
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Re: Tiger Woods, just as an amateur, Casey Martin
Do handicap parking spaces also bother you? Accomodations for people with physical handicaps are sometimes necessary so that those people can work and live somewhat like the rest of us.
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#35
03-27-2007, 10:16 AM
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Re: Tiger Woods, just as an amateur, Casey Martin
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Do handicap parking spaces also bother you? Accomodations for people with physical handicaps are sometimes necessary so that those people can work and live somewhat like the rest of us. [/ QUOTE ] "Like the rest of us" ? I don't know about you, pal, but 99.9% of the people I know aren't playing on the PGA Tour. It's an extreme privilege reserved for the best of the best. Parking spaces are for everyone. Big difference.
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#37
03-27-2007, 12:05 PM
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Re: Tiger Woods, just as an amateur, Casey Martin
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Do handicap parking spaces also bother you? Accomodations for people with physical handicaps are sometimes necessary so that those people can work and live somewhat like the rest of us. [/ QUOTE ] That's a really bad analogy because the PGA is for elite golfers. I don't feel like ruining this thread with another horrible analogy so I'm not going to. I basically agree with Noodleman from a business perspective Casey Martin would have been a huge draw and there wouldn't be that big an issue of setting a precedent because his circumstance is so rare. By not allowing the Casey to play the PGA appeared cold and callous on an issue they used to promote their organization.
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#38
03-27-2007, 12:33 PM
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Re: Tiger Woods, just as an amateur, Casey Martin
I agree that the thinking that a bunch of other pros were going to use carts is retarded.
As far as the handicap spots, I agree, and maybe we should also let shorter players in the NBA use stilts. Maybe players who can't jump quite as high can use trampoline shoes. Maybe players with a bum leg can even use carts to get up and down the floor.
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#40
03-27-2007, 12:59 PM
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Re: Tiger Woods, just as an amateur, Casey Martin
I don't see how it's much different. We're talking about how far the rights of disabled people should be extended in regards to competitive and/or professional sports. Golf, while not as athletic as some of the other major pro sports, is still a pro sport.
Fact of the matter is I'm not even that anti-Casey Martin and what he was trying to do because he had unusual circumstances that I think deserved some debate. My beef is more with people who play in amateur competitive tournaments and absolutely possess the ability to walk but choose to ride in a cart because it's easier and because it's an advantage - especially in extreme weather one way or the other.
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