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Old 02-05-2007, 10:27 PM
Al Mirpuri Al Mirpuri is offline
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Some days, you will catch a flush and your opponent will make a higher one. Some days you will be rolled and run into a draw that gets there.

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That was exactly what it was like. I find myself in the strange position of agreeing with everything you said and will act on all of it.
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Old 02-05-2007, 11:28 PM
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Produce your evidence or I will sue you for defamation.



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Wow, what a TOOL!!!! And I don't think I ever said you tilt, you loser. I simply implied that u may not be playing your A game.. Like its a friggen insult anyway.

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Oh by the way, hourly rate is a median and famously medians do not exist. Sometimes you win $1 over a session sometimes $444 you average it out and you get your median which in this case is one's hourly rate.




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Wanna bet?

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Are you one of these people who cannot abide disagreement and think you are always right Mr Stop Loss.

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Stop loss was a recommendation and not about right or wrong. As bbartdog offered his opinions.. Saying "If you could objectively look at the game conditions, etc..." I agreed with that, and my idea for a stop loss was on the condition that basically, you can not objectively look at the game conditions.

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I have plenty to learn but I fear you are not the one to teach me.

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There are a lot of great posters on here.. I'm not one of them, that's for sure.. But I've played this game for a while, and I don't usually offer my advice if unless I'm fairly confident in it..
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Old 02-05-2007, 11:45 PM
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southerndog you have no sense of humour, how can anyone be sued for defamation because they have been called a 'tilter' it would be unprecedented.

So now you have gone on tilt...

Your vulgarity is equal to your stupidity.
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Old 02-05-2007, 11:53 PM
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Al, let me show u something about median vs. arithmetic mean or average..

Consider a MTT player with the following win and loss records..-5000, -10,000, -1,000, -2,000, +150,000.

What is his median, and what is his average?

Is he a winning or losing player?

According to the median would he be a winning or losing player?

According to the arithmetic average, is he a winner or loser?
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Old 02-05-2007, 11:57 PM
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One very important factor, I failed to mention is that ALL these PLAYERS are NEW to me as I have been playing a lot of Hold'em for some time. I have had to make new notes and this has probably contributed to the downswing immeasurably though I have taken the advice given in this thread.
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Old 02-06-2007, 12:25 AM
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Al, let me show u something about median vs. arithmetic mean or average..

Consider a MTT player with the following win and loss records..-5000, -10,000, -1,000, -2,000, +150,000.

What is his median, and what is his average?

Is he a winning or losing player?

According to the median would he be a winning or losing player?

According to the arithmetic average, is he a winner or loser?

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Mean, mode and median are all averages. I mistook median for mean but don't even know that the median is an average. The mean is not somehow more legitimate.

The whole point about variance is that it evens out in the long run but you get absurd short run experiences and even though the hourly rate is approximated to over time you never have that experential occurrence: you win and lose in what appears to be a haphazad fashion but regresses to the mean hourly rate whether positive or negative.
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Old 02-06-2007, 12:55 AM
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Median is not an average, it is the middle of the data set.

In the example, the median is -$5K while the mean is +$26.4K.

And there is no way to tell if he is a winning player long term because the data set is too small.
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Old 02-06-2007, 12:57 AM
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Al, let me show u something about median vs. arithmetic mean or average..

Consider a MTT player with the following win and loss records..-5000, -10,000, -1,000, -2,000, +150,000.

What is his median, and what is his average?

Is he a winning or losing player?

According to the median would he be a winning or losing player?

According to the arithmetic average, is he a winner or loser?

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Mean, mode and median are all averages. I mistook median for mean but don't even know that the median is an average. The mean is not somehow more legitimate.

The whole point about variance is that it evens out in the long run but you get absurd short run experiences and even though the hourly rate is approximated to over time you never have that experential occurrence: you win and lose in what appears to be a haphazad fashion but regresses to the mean hourly rate whether positive or negative.

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Its ok to admit you're wrong.
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Old 02-06-2007, 01:28 AM
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Al, let me show u something about median vs. arithmetic mean or average..

Consider a MTT player with the following win and loss records..-5000, -10,000, -1,000, -2,000, +150,000.

What is his median, and what is his average?

Is he a winning or losing player?

According to the median would he be a winning or losing player?

According to the arithmetic average, is he a winner or loser?

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Mean, mode and median are all averages. I mistook median for mean but don't even know that the median is an average. The mean is not somehow more legitimate.

The whole point about variance is that it evens out in the long run but you get absurd short run experiences and even though the hourly rate is approximated to over time you never have that experential occurrence: you win and lose in what appears to be a haphazad fashion but regresses to the mean hourly rate whether positive or negative.

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Its ok to admit you're wrong.

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You should admit you are wrong as well as rude...Mr Stop Loss.
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Old 02-06-2007, 02:22 AM
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Default Re: Analysis of A Seven Card Stud Downswing!

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Median is not an average, it is the middle of the data set.

In the example, the median is -$5K while the mean is +$26.4K.

And there is no way to tell if he is a winning player long term because the data set is too small.

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In British schools we are taught there are three averages: mode, median and mean. On the basis of what you are saying it could just as easily be argues that the mean is not the average it is just all the values of the members of the data set totted up and divided by the number of members of the data set...and yes the data set is too small to act as anything other than a rough guide.
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