Annoying New Mother.

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dom,

your philosophy make work well in sweatshops but studies have shown that in corporate usa, happy workers are better producers. moms can do both "jobs". employee and employer benefit.

the us is way behind in first world countries regarding maternity benifits.

read something other than porn times.

i agree with OP that this mom has an issue.

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With the over abundance of qualified canidates nowadays to fill most any jobs, how is this true? could you post the links to the studies, or at least the names of them?

[whipsaw]

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dom,

your philosophy make work well in sweatshops but studies have shown that in corporate usa, happy workers are better producers. moms can do both "jobs". employee and employer benefit.

the us is way behind in first world countries regarding maternity benifits.

read something other than porn times.

i agree with OP that this mom has an issue.

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With the over abundance of qualified canidates nowadays to fill most any jobs, how is this true? could you post the links to the studies, or at least the names of them?

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You really need documented proof that happier workers are better for companies? lol

[guids]

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dom,

your philosophy make work well in sweatshops but studies have shown that in corporate usa, happy workers are better producers. moms can do both "jobs". employee and employer benefit.

the us is way behind in first world countries regarding maternity benifits.

read something other than porn times.

i agree with OP that this mom has an issue.

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With the over abundance of qualified canidates nowadays to fill most any jobs, how is this true? could you post the links to the studies, or at least the names of them?

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You really need documented proof that happier workers are better for companies? lol

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Uh, no, I dont, but hiring people whos number 1 goal is not to make money, but rather have kids, at the cost of the company seems like a worse option than hiring canidates who are more career oriented. "lol" you [censored] douche bag

[Gildwulf]

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I'm of the Tom Leykis school of thought when it comes to kids and work: you should get no special treatment at your job just because you have a kid. Illness, school play, doctor's appt., whatever. Do your freaking job and don't expect me to take up your slack because little Jimmy is going to visit his Grandma and you have to drive him.

In fact, I don't think employers should have to give maternity leave. Having children is a lifestyle choice. It is not a medical condition, you are not "sick." It's something you chose to do.

Hell, I "choose" to go skiing for three months. Why can't I get paid leave for that?? Because it's stupid, that's why. You're paid to do a job. Do it. If having a child keeps you from doing your job effectively, you should be fired.

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Wow you're an even bigger sexist douche than I've always thought. Wow.

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How is this sexist? Dont men get "paternity" leave nowadays too? Im 100% with dom on this one, having a child is no differnt than me wanting to go skiiing, etc. Just because you can stick your penis in a vagina, or vice versa doesnt mean you are special, so why should a place who's number one priority is to make money be forced to treat you special, while it costs them money?

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The same reason they have sick days and team building exercises and retreats: to keep their employees happy, healthy and productive.

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I already concede taht point, but I think what would be better for the bottom line is to get rid of people who are costing the company that amount of money.

[adsman]

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viewing new year's eve as an almost sacred party event is stupid. you can get drunk any old night, why do you give a [censored] if you can't be wild and crazy cuz the kid is asleep? i agree the kid shouldn't be at the party, but people who think it's OK to bring the kid to the party likely are boring as hell anyway, so the party would have sucked regardless.

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Yes you can party any night of the year but for 90% 18-35 of the population, it is the whole point of a New Years Eve party. And from the OP's indication, the aforementioned chick used to be the same way. Only now because SHE has chosen to have a kid, SHE expects an entire paradigm shift from her whole circle of friends. Very self centered behavior in my opinion.

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Thankyou. Did I also mention how she ran down the street at midnight trying to get people who she didn't know to stop setting off firecrackers? Needless to say the kid slept through everything but I feel sorry for him, I really do.

[MaxPower]

Yes, that woman sounds very annoying, but so do you.

I'm sure she thinks she is a great mother. Great mothers always take their babies to New Year's Eve parties filed with coked up single guys.

[guids]

How could you not have mentioned that one. That is awesome. Thats going to be one messed up kid.

[jackdaniels]

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I'm of the Tom Leykis school of thought when it comes to kids and work: you should get no special treatment at your job just because you have a kid. Illness, school play, doctor's appt., whatever. Do your freaking job and don't expect me to take up your slack because little Jimmy is going to visit his Grandma and you have to drive him.

In fact, I don't think employers should have to give maternity leave. Having children is a lifestyle choice. It is not a medical condition, you are not "sick." It's something you chose to do.

Hell, I "choose" to go skiing for three months. Why can't I get paid leave for that?? Because it's stupid, that's why. You're paid to do a job. Do it. If having a child keeps you from doing your job effectively, you should be fired.

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Wow you're an even bigger sexist douche than I've always thought. Wow.

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How is this sexist? Dont men get "paternity" leave nowadays too? Im 100% with dom on this one, having a child is no differnt than me wanting to go skiiing, etc. Just because you can stick your penis in a vagina, or vice versa doesnt mean you are special, so why should a place who's number one priority is to make money be forced to treat you special, while it costs them money?

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The same reason they have sick days and team building exercises and retreats: to keep their employees happy, healthy and productive.

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I have no quarrel with happy workers being more productive and thus better for the companies bottom line. What I havea quarrel with is that Mat/Pat benefits are subsidized by tax dollars (thus, I am paying for someone else to have a kid), and that it IS a lifestyle choice. If what makes me happy an a better worker was skiing, should I expect my company and John Doe tax payer to subsidize it? I don't think so.

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guids,

i agree. fast forward several years. female empolyee falls in love, gets married, has a baby, etc.

if she was a valuable asset to the company before motherhood, the company wants to keep her.

many fortune 500's have day care in house.