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Old 01-06-2007, 01:03 AM
WillMagic WillMagic is offline
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Default Re: Huge odds V.S. reverse domination

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In this kind of game, why throw gasoline on a fire.
Raising with AQ off seems like a poor play.
Your all-in equity may be good, but the re-raise might
be a hand that dominates you. You did say it was a passive
game

When you build a huge pot with this hand and flop 1 pair,
you will have a great deal of problem laying it down when
you are beat. Worse yet, by building a huge pot, you give
everyone the correct odds to chase their BS when you do
flop your pair. In essence, most chasers will be getting the correct odds for chasing.

Instead, just call preflop and plan to bet or raise to force
people to either fold or make really bad calls. Rasing AQ may gain a fraction of a bet if you are all-in, but waiting until the flop to get aggressive will gain far more, because now these clowns will STILL call with third pair, and they will not be getting the correct odds to call.

This is why raising with JJ UTG in that kind of game is a bad idea. Building a big pot gives overcards (even singleton overcards) better odds for calling.

Beat weak players by giving them more opportunity to make BAD plays. Save PFRing for hands that flop monsters. I'd
MUCH rather raise with 98s or 88 in this kind of game.

In the hand in question, had you simply limped, you could
just muck to that garbage flop with many limpers. Too many bad things can happen. I'd estimate your hand to have 3 outs, and worse than that, you will often catch good and still lose, which is a very bad thing for draws to 6 outs.

In unrasied pots, I think calling with overcards is almost always bad unless the board is VERY thin on draws OR I have some kind of backdoor equity, such as a 3 card nut flush draw.

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this is bad, bad, very very bad advice.

mucking the flop is an absolute disaster. you are getting 26-1. TWENTY -SIX TO [censored] ONE. TWENTY-SIX!!!!!111!!1!!!

also raising preflop is very clear. capping not quite so much. I don't really care either way whether you cap of just call.

EDIT: wow I misread the original post. not nearly as bad as I thought. I apologize for the earlier harsh criticism. I still raise stuff like AQo in this spot in the hope of limiting the size of the field some, but yeah, capping is pretty pointless, as once the field is this large your edge is minimal and your hand doesn't play great postflop.
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Old 01-06-2007, 01:25 AM
Little_blue Little_blue is offline
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Default Re: Huge odds V.S. reverse domination

If anyone instrested....I did call (even I can see it was a huge pot). Flop was a Q....k to me I callsed the player my right rasied I think 3 callser and I called...

River was a blank I k to the player on my right who bet 2 ca;;ers I called and lost to a QT...

As to the agument about the advantage one had with AQo The hands these players are playing come very close to random...At a minimum any to suited cards and conectors any A most un suited connedctors..

As a rule they brag about not raisign pre flop....
so AQo has a large edge.
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Old 01-06-2007, 01:28 AM
Little_blue Little_blue is offline
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Default Re: Huge odds V.S. reverse domination

it should read the player on my left....(the orginal flop bettor.
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