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Old 11-29-2006, 03:16 PM
kipin kipin is offline
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Also I have a rhapsody subscription but it always freezes for about 5 seconds every 3 songs or so then gets really loud for the rest of the song. I would cancel it if there was another option because its really annoying. Hell, sometimes I time out and fold hands because it freezes my whole damn computer for 5 seconds

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Winamp and mp3s I download illegally never freeze my computer or hog my system resources.

Oh, and they play without skipping too.
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Old 11-29-2006, 03:17 PM
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I believe it should be up to the consumer, not the creator of that information to decide if it is worth any amount of money.

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wow. do you believe this for all industries, or just music/entertainment?
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Old 11-29-2006, 03:17 PM
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For anyone interested in details, opinions or examples of digital copyright law, Mark Cuban has written some interesting stuff on DRM and DMCA Safe Harbor rules at http://www.blogmaverick.com/

He's not an expert in the subject as far as I know, but he seems to be pretty informed and has some very strong, uncensored opinions that are pretty good reads imo.
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Old 11-29-2006, 03:20 PM
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Information wants to be free, and music is just information.

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this is typically the stance of people who don't create information

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Everyone creates information.

I am creating information right now as I type. I want as many people to read it as possible. I want my message to get out. The easiest way for this to happen is if I make it freely available.

Information wants to be free. It wants to be heard, read, or watched. Information should flow like water. Information availability is what has fueled rapid development and growth for centuries. And each day, information becomes cheaper and easier to access. This is a good thing, not a bad thing.
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Old 11-29-2006, 03:21 PM
Kneel B4 Zod Kneel B4 Zod is offline
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I agree with all your sentiments regarding DRM, however:

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Information wants to be free, and music is just information.


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as I've said before, I think musicians should get paid for what they do. I am saying this as someone who has worked as a professional musician for almost 15 years. I personally don't have a problem giving away music I make, and neither do many other musicians, however I very strongly believe it should be up to me to make that choice.

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I believe it should be up to the consumer, not the creator of that information to decide if it is worth any amount of money.

I personally have no problem going to concerts and supporting an artist that way, but I will not, ever, buy another CD put out by the big 5 recording studios.

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Kipin change 'information' to 'Frosted Flakes' and 'big 5 recording studios' to 'supermarkets' to hear how odd your argument sounds
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Old 11-29-2006, 03:21 PM
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Which is better, Rhapsody To Go or Napster To Go? Any other companies have similar subscription based services? I wish iTunes had something like this!
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Old 11-29-2006, 03:25 PM
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I just wanna say Lars Ulrich and Metallica are the world's biggest posers for there stance on Napster after pretending to be against the big bad music business corporations.

Metallica is more money grubbing than P.Diddy without the nuts to admit it.
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Old 11-29-2006, 03:27 PM
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I believe it should be up to the consumer, not the creator of that information to decide if it is worth any amount of money.

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wow. do you believe this for all industries, or just music/entertainment?

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You make a fridge. You say it is worth $10 million dollars.

I as the consumer can now either agree with you and pay you $10 million dollars for the fridge, or disagree with you and not pay you the 10 million. $10 million for a fridge sounds like an awful lot for a fridge, so I decide not to pay it.

We both hold power in this scenario, but in a competitive system, the consumer holds way more power. The problem with the big media companies is that they are a cartel, artificially deciding on what prices should be set at across the board.

It is your job as the supplier to reach a favorable equilibrium and find a price point that I am willing to pay so you can get your money, and I receive my fridge.

So yes, as a consumer I believe I am the one who decides what dollar value any item is worth to me.

The RIAA will cease to exist as new media companies arise and realize that they can compete on price, and quality of the music. It will take time, but the market will correct the wrongs of the RIAA by continuing to decrease its relevancy and power.
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Old 11-29-2006, 03:27 PM
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Guys, if you want to download music for free ad not buy cds then go ahead and do it. I do it sometimes. But don't go around making up some philosophy that rationalizes your behavior and makes your feel like a good person who is smarter than everyone else.

The fact is that the reason you do it is that you can get away with it. Everything else is just a rationalization. Just accept the fact that you are a fallible human being.

Guess what. Without money or some form of trade, there would be no music. You are entering into a business transaction with an artist. He/She provides you with music/entertainment and you provide the artist with something that is also valuable. It is a good deal for both of you. If it becomes a bad deal for the artist, the artist will stop creating. Or he/she may create art, but not give you access to it.
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Old 11-29-2006, 03:28 PM
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"Information wants to be free. It wants to be heard, read, or watched. Information should flow like water. Information availability is what has fueled rapid development and growth for centuries. And each day, information becomes cheaper and easier to access. This is a good thing, not a bad thing."

Information: I want to be free.
Studio Exec: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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