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Old 11-01-2006, 09:15 PM
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Default Re: 30 million just to negotiate with Matsuzaka? WTF?

That's alot of money for someone who hasnt proven himself in the MLB game. I would never pay that.
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Old 11-01-2006, 09:24 PM
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That's alot of money for someone who hasnt proven himself in the MLB game. I would never pay that.

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Having the biggest name from Japan on a team is valuable off the field as well.
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Old 11-01-2006, 09:36 PM
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Based on the best projections we have, Matsuzaka > Schmidt or Zito (the top two U.S. pitchers on the market this year), and younger.

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Really? His stats don't look significantly better than Hideki Irabu's from 1994-6.
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Old 11-01-2006, 09:45 PM
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Based on the best projections we have, Matsuzaka > Schmidt or Zito (the top two U.S. pitchers on the market this year), and younger.

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Really? His stats don't look significantly better than Hideki Irabu's from 1994-6.

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Looking over the stats briefly :

While they both had very good Strikeout numbers, Matsuzaka's HR allowed and Walks allowed were/are WAY better.
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Old 11-01-2006, 10:20 PM
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That's alot of money for someone who hasnt proven himself in the MLB game. I would never pay that.

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And we're all glad you don't manage anything.
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Old 11-01-2006, 10:34 PM
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So, can someone explain to me, is this $30 million fee for every team that puts in a bid, or just a fee the team that ends up signing him has to pay? That would be crazy if his Japanese club could make $150 million because 5 teams put bids in.

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Interested teams make their bids. They could bid $30 mil. or $5 bucks. This fee goes to his Japan club. Highest bid team gets exclusive rights to sign him to whatever contract they agree to.
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Old 11-01-2006, 10:42 PM
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"The Orioles could post a huge bid -- say $50 million -- and blow everybody else out of the water. With exclusive negotiating rights, they then could offer Matsuzaka a take-it-or-leave-it minimum bid, like a six-year, $6 million deal. Matsuzaka and agent Scott Boras, with just 30 days to negotiate and with no ability to generate a competing bid from another major league team, would have the stark choice of taking the Orioles' lowball offer or remaining in Japan

[/ QUOTE ] No, this isn't how it works. If the two sides fail to reach an agreement within the 30 day period, the next highest bidder gets to negotiate with the player. Matsuzaka would just refuse the deal and then the Yankees will still get him.

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I think that you are wrong here. If the team that puts in the highest bid cannot reach an agreement with the player then the player simply returns to the Japanese team, no money changes hands and the player cannot be reposted for another year.

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/conten...1/c1657081.jsp

"The club and player then have 30 days to make a deal. If the club comes to an agreement with the player, the blind bid money goes to the Japanese team as a transfer fee. If there is no agreement with the player, no money exchanges hands between the MLB club and the Japanese team (the bid money is returned), and the player cannot be reposted for another year."
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Old 11-01-2006, 10:59 PM
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There are no restraint of trade laws in baseball then?
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Old 11-01-2006, 11:04 PM
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That's alot of money for someone who hasnt proven himself in the MLB game. I would never pay that.

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He's a lot more proven than some kid out of high school. Japan is somewhere between AAA and the majors in quality, so he projects well to MLB.
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Old 11-01-2006, 11:51 PM
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There are no restraint of trade laws in baseball then?

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What are you getting at here?
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