I folded this before on Party but am lost now on Stars (100NL)

UCLAseetoK · #1 10-30-2006, 02:08 AM

I don't know why I called this. Are the 100NL unknown, non-regular players so bad that I can call this?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 ($174)
MP3 ($35)
CO ($96.80)
Button ($108.60)
SB ($154.65)
BB ($25.80)
Hero ($188.65)
UTG+1 ($92)
MP1 ($95.45)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $3.5, UTG+1 calls $3.50, MP1 calls $3.50, MP2 calls $3.50, MP3 calls $3.50, 3 folds, BB calls $2.50.

Flop: ($21.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $20, UTG+1 folds, MP1 raises to $91.95, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, BB folds, Hero calls $71.95.

Turn: ($205.40) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: ($205.40) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: $205.40

"Don't get stacked with tptk!"

UCLAseetoK · #2 10-30-2006, 02:09 AM

edit*: villain is unknown, so no stats

OMGTILTING · #3 10-30-2006, 04:03 AM

easy fold to the flop raise, with that many people seing the flop.

Marshall28 · #4 10-30-2006, 04:08 AM

i think a raise of just 15 accomplishes the same as the raise to 20 on the flop ... in comparison, id make my PF raise much bigger .. i always raise at least 5x bb. and apparently so should you especially at a table like this. its very uncommon to see a 6way raised pot on the flop, but unless you nail it you can figure you are beat here.

and if u werent beat, i think this is a fluke. you cant make this call in general.

Weatherhead03 · #5 10-30-2006, 04:07 AM

That push looks a lot like a flush draw.

BDaws · #6 10-30-2006, 04:10 AM

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That push looks a lot like a flush draw.

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Or a set/two pair that knows you aren't folding because you have a good enough hand to bet into 5 people on the flop.

I would fold.

UCLAseetoK · #7 10-30-2006, 04:28 AM

Villain mucked A8o. I thought after i called it shoulda been a fold too, thanks for keeping me sane

kslghost · #8 10-30-2006, 05:56 AM

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I don't know why I called this. Are the 100NL unknown, non-regular players so bad that I can call this?

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The answer is yes.

And I'd never fold this. Pot is huge due to preflop action, but it also tends to cause people to do idiotic stuff. With all those preflop callers, guy will do this with basically any ace.

Good table selection though.

BTW, this

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"Don't get stacked with tptk!"

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is a dumb quote. As are most general sweeping statements.

FGators · #9 10-30-2006, 11:30 AM

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That push looks a lot like a flush draw.

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Thats old school. The new age play of the last 3 months is that this is a set 'repping' the flush draw.

Fold this.

sdfsdf · #10 10-30-2006, 11:41 AM

id be more likely to call this against a party player than a stars one