The basis for a perfect roulette system

[BobAllinSki]

There is one roulette system that eliminates the house advantage completely and here it is


First, never bet simply red or black. Also don't bet odd or even. These are equally poor, consistently losing wagers.

Second, don't be suckered into betting zero or double zero, despite what some experts may suggest. This may seem like you're betting with the house, but for technical reasons you are actually betting against the house -- and you are taking the worst of it.

So, in order to negate the house advantage, you MUST stick to straight non-green number bets. All odd red numbers turn out to be bad choices, based on over two trillion computer trials. Don't bet them.

All even black numbers fair poorly, and cannot be bet, for much the same reason, which I won't explain here.

Let's get straight to the money-saving advice. Any bet you decide to make MUST cover only even-red or odd-black numbers. There are no exceptions.

Finally, you need to be very disciplined in excluding the number 30 and the group of consecutive numbers that begins with 11 and continues clockwise through and including 14.


Courtesy of Mike Caro.

[kennyw]

i saw this explained best in a black jack book disproving such an idea.
the chance of that third or infinate next red is not the added probability ur looking at but just the chance of the next red given what already happened. so it the chance of either r,r,r comin out or r,r,b . still fifty fifty. still giving them the odds. and as some1 else said doubling ur bets the martingale way would work if thier were an infinate bankroll and no table limits but that doesnt exist

[DiceyPlay]

Casino games are an exploitation of those who don't understand mathematics and more precisely probability and expectation. True there are plenty of people who really don't care about the money and are there to have fun and hopefully buck the odds and win a few bucks.

When you understand math, you'll understand a fair roulette wheel can't be beat - no matter what system you employ. Talking about infinite bankrolls, no table limit, and instantly playing an infinite number of spins are all not realistic.

BTW - poker is not a casino game. Casino games are those where the house participates in the wager and has a built in edge on the outcome. In poker the casino takes a rake or drop from the pot ... you never lose a hand in poker to the casino, you lose to another poker player.

[AlienBoy]

Roulette is a tax on the statistically ignorant...


AB

[elindauer]

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Casino games are an exploitation of those who don't understand mathematics...

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First of all, this statement is rather naive. How silly would it be for me to write the following sentence:

"Movies are an exploitation of those who don't understand EV."

Sure, the movie might be -EV, but so what? There's more to life than money.

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When you understand math, you understand that roulette cannot be beaten...

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As a member of the blackjack team chronicled in "Bringing Down the House", I think I am qualified to say that in fact, most casino games are beatable in completely legal ways. To name a few, there's blackjack, craps, baccarat, and yes, even roulette.

Of course, you don't beat these games with simple systems... you beat them with hour upon hour of practice.

good luck.
-eric

[PairTheBoard]

baccarat?


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[elindauer]

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baccarat?


PairTheBoard

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Yes. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

-eric

[PairTheBoard]

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baccarat?


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Yes. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

-eric

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How's that done?

PairTheBoard

[DiceyPlay]

Wrong ... sorry. You're not fooling me and I hope you're not fooling anyone with a brain. You're not a member of the MIT blackjack team. Your statment that craps, roulette, and baccarat are beatable strongly suggest you are clueless. And clueless people aren't members of the MIT blackjack team.

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"Movies are an exploitation of those who don't understand EV."

Sure, the movie might be -EV, but so what? There's more to life than money.

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What the hell does that mean?

Vegas exploits its patrons the same way you exploit players at the poker table. Except they get to the long run everyday - not on any one patron, but on the sum total of all patrons.

A fair roulette wheel is not beatable unless you are cheating. Emphasis on FAIR. Baccarat is as beatable as Pai Gow. In craps the best you can do is minimize the house percentage to 1.6% I think.

Why do you think Vegas is there? Small to monster edges in all casino games and laws of large number (PERIOD). I guess I'll choose to maintain my naive stance.

[PairTheBoard]

Roulette is beatable with a computer via wheel and ball timing. Of course use of the computer does make it cheating. It's conceivable that a human could do the work of the computer. One feasible technique is pretty easy to figure out once you get a wheel where the ball drops off the rim in the same section most of the time - which used to be fairly common. A poster in the Other Gambling Forum a while back claimed to have been a member of the MIT team and that some of them actually got a hold of a Roulette Wheel to practice this human timing technique on. He said they had the same experience I did. It feels like it's working but when you keep stats of the results you see it's not. I actually got Heat at the Frontier once for trying to do this. I was getting pretty lucky hitting my numbers hehe. They brought a dealer in who spun the wheel so fast the ball would pop out of it sometimes when it landed. LOL

On craps, I saw a show on TV that made a pretty good case for gaining an edge with a skillful dice tossing method. I wonder if this has ever been statistically proven though.

On Bacarat, I thought the dealer/player symetry made the game unbeatable even if card counting could be employed. I really don't know the game though.

PairTheBoard