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#31
09-30-2006, 10:38 PM
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Re: Will this bill change your political affiliation?
My main problem is that this bill wasn't voted on
as a stand alone bill. Frist slipped the bill into a bill that most Senators could not vote against. And the bad thing is this is a common thing to do,and both sides do it. 
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#32
09-30-2006, 10:42 PM
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Re: Will this bill change your political affiliation?
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Frist slipped the bill into a bill that most Senators could not vote against. [/ QUOTE ] They most certainly could vote against it. They just didn't want to. Either because they don't care about liberty or are too cowardly to defend it.
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#33
09-30-2006, 10:54 PM
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Re: When not to vote libertarian
Your plan a joke. The people your trying to convince don't give a [censored] about Republicans or Democrats. It's Pepsi vs. Coke. Now go take your idiocy elsewhere.
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#34
09-30-2006, 11:18 PM
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Re: When not to vote libertarian
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They most certainly could vote against it. They just didn't want to. Either because they don't care about liberty or are too cowardly to defend it. [/ QUOTE ] Do you really think it is cowardly to vote FOR the port bill. Because I am glad the port bill passed, as I think the majority of Americans are. The problem is that this piggy-backing cheat system allowed something completely unrelated to pass with a bill everyone was going to vote for. THAT is the problem...and voting against this is likely to end your future candidacy. All you'd have to say is Senator X didn't vote for the port security bill, he isn't tough on terrorism, how could he not vote to keep our country safe?
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#35
09-30-2006, 11:24 PM
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Re: When not to vote libertarian
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If there is a clear winner, than Libertarian is a good 'protest vote'. Libertarians must get 5% of the popular votes (maybe electorial) before they are recognized in debates. They usually bring in around 0.7%. If they get recognized in debates (or get 4% of the vote or so), then people will take them seriously. They will also get funding too. But nothing until that point. [/ QUOTE ] Getting to a certain percentage does get you federal funding, but I seriously doubt the Libertarian Party would accept federal funding..at least I hope not. That would be a major league sellout.
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#36
09-30-2006, 11:36 PM
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Re: When not to vote libertarian
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[ QUOTE ] They most certainly could vote against it. They just didn't want to. Either because they don't care about liberty or are too cowardly to defend it. [/ QUOTE ] Do you really think it is cowardly to vote FOR the port bill. Because I am glad the port bill passed, as I think the majority of Americans are. The problem is that this piggy-backing cheat system allowed something completely unrelated to pass with a bill everyone was going to vote for. THAT is the problem... and voting against this is likely to end your future candidacy. All you'd have to say is Senator X didn't vote for the port security bill, he isn't tough on terrorism, how could he not vote to keep our country safe? [/ QUOTE ] That's what's cowardly. Although I haven't looked at the port bill chances are it by itself is a good thing. However the fact remains- They voted against individual liberty. They voted against your right to particpate in a voluntary card game based on skill with an element of luck. They are scum, and it makes me sick that what is supposedly a government based on life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness voted over 99% to rid us of our freedom to play a game. Disgusting.
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#37
09-30-2006, 11:48 PM
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Re: When not to vote libertarian
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That's what's cowardly. Although I haven't looked at the port bill chances are it by itself is a good thing. [/ QUOTE ] Aren't you a candidate for AC rookie of the year? I am surprised you would say this bill (excluding the IG provision, of course) is a "good thing." I haven't read the bill either, but I am guessing it involved many new government imposed regulations, along with several billion dollars in taxpayer funds. I thought ACers were against any government regulations and spending?
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#38
10-01-2006, 12:12 AM
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Re: When not to vote libertarian
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[ QUOTE ] That's what's cowardly. Although I haven't looked at the port bill chances are it by itself is a good thing. [/ QUOTE ] Aren't you a candidate for AC rookie of the year? I am surprised you would say this bill (excluding the IG provision, of course) is a "good thing." I haven't read the bill either, but I am guessing it involved many new government imposed regulations, along with several billion dollars in taxpayer funds. I thought ACers were against any government regulations and spending? [/ QUOTE ] Good point. What I meant is that a lot of people are going to support the port security bill, mainly the incredibly large majority of people that are not libertarians. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] edit: Although I am intriqued at this ACist rookie of the year award, anyone have the latest standings? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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#39
10-01-2006, 01:32 AM
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Re: Will this bill change your political affiliation?
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I was a Democrat to begin with, so no this wont change my political affiliation. [/ QUOTE ] Why not? The Democrats certainly won't make it legal again if they regain power. Anyone who's serious about any kind of freedom doesn't vote for Democrats or Republicans.
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#40
10-01-2006, 01:36 AM
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Re: Will this bill change your political affiliation?
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I'm voting Libertarian this time I think. I know it's "throwing away your vote" or whatever [/ QUOTE ] The only way to throw away your vote is to vote for something other than what you believe. Voting for a losing candidate still makes your voice heard.
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