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Old 08-11-2006, 10:13 PM
yimyammer yimyammer is offline
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Default Re: God I Hate Flat-Callers

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PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t400 with t25 antes (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t13643)
UTG+1 (t6110)
MP1 (t9900)
MP2 (t9510)
MP3 (t13361)
CO (t9170)
Button (t5361)
Hero (t11523)
BB (t7344)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, MP1 calls t400, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, Hero calls t200, BB checks

Flop: (t1425) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets t900</font>, BB calls t900, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>

Turn: (t3225) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

Hero?

I didn't see fit to make any notes on Villain, so I'm assuming he's been fairly quiet. I imagine I'm perceived as opening a little light PF, but I haven't given Villain any reason to think I'm making a play in this situation. These stack sizes suck.

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what about raising preflop?
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Old 08-11-2006, 10:46 PM
NoahSD NoahSD is offline
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Default Re: God I Hate Flat-Callers

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Villain's likely holdings at this point:

We're ahead of Jx and KQ.

We're behind J2, T2, JT and 98.

I doubt he's holding anything else.

I think I go into check/call mode so that Jx doesn't fold and we minimize the damage against all the hands that are beating us. If he bets the turn I probably call. If we check to him and he bets the river again we have to give serious thought to folding, as I think Jx at that point is almost always checking behind.

EDIT: Villain could also be holding 22. I don't think 77, TT, or JJ are very likely, although there's a small chance.

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Nice analysis again.
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Old 08-11-2006, 11:07 PM
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Go into c/c mode as a hand that beats you *probably* won't get in by the river out of fear that he'll lose you, and you make close to as much against hands that are losing to you.

If he checks the turn, value bet the river.

Regards,
Woodguy

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I like this line a lot.
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Old 08-11-2006, 11:08 PM
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Default Re: God I Hate Flat-Callers

I would just check and evaluate the turn here. If he pots it, just go ahead and raise him all-in (I don't think he has enough behind for us to try to just call and control the pot size... plus, I don't think he folds better hands here when CRed given his stack size).

In all honestly, you're probably going to the felt when you are beat here anyway, so I think I'm leaning toward a CR all-in to get draws to come along as well.

edit: Villain was deeper than I thought, but I still think we CR all-in against a PSB on the turn when we check.
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