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  #31  
Old 07-19-2006, 05:05 AM
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Default lines are out:

From betonfighting.com, which doesnt have the most competative lines, but still gives a good idea of what we can expect:

bas -670
kimo +545

rampage -225
lindlan +195

mayhem -355
lodune +295

machida -700
white +550

ricco -120
waterman ev

salaverry -300
santore +250

[censored] it, im stacking up on mayhem and salaverry.
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Old 07-19-2006, 05:09 AM
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Default Re: WFA 7/22 (new mixed martial arts org)

hughes is looking damned near invulnerable these days. where can gsp dominate him? one sided ass whippery will ensue.
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Old 07-19-2006, 01:38 PM
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Default Re: WFA 7/22 (new mixed martial arts org)

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hughes is looking damned near invulnerable these days. where can gsp dominate him? one sided ass whippery will ensue.

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Well, he can clearly dominate a stand-up fight. How long he can stay on his feet is debateable, but given his heart shown against Penn, and his skills displayed in the short amount of time that they fought last time (I think he was giving Hughes as good a round as anyone has in quite a long time), I think he would have plenty of chances in a 5 round fight.
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Old 07-19-2006, 01:59 PM
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Default Re: WFA 7/22 (new mixed martial arts org)

I know this post may not belong here, but am I the only one who thinks this card sucks? I mean, I know it's an upstart organization, but I see one competitive fight - the Rampage fight - and that one may turn out to be a snoozer. Yet I've seen nothing but praise for this card, both here and on the Underground Forum - with some calling it the best card ever. Not seeing it.
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Old 07-19-2006, 02:50 PM
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Default Re: WFA 7/22 (new mixed martial arts org)

Well, it is an upstart organization...and I think that counts for a lot.

But, besides that, there are a lot of very good fighters on this card. Jason Miller is a very good fighter. Salavery is a top tier 185lber. Lindland and Rampage are both title competitors. The return of the legend, Bas Rutten is reasonably cool to people who have been MMA fans for awhile.

I don't know. If the UFC was having this card...I might not be too happy, but I'm pretty impressed.
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Old 07-19-2006, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: WFA 7/22 (new mixed martial arts org)

totally agreed. mayhem, rampage, lindland, and ivan are tier one fighters.

and honestly i think the kimo/bas fight might just be quite a lot more interesting than people think.

i dont know how i feel about the price tag for the ppv, but this isnt really a bad mma card at all.
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Old 07-19-2006, 03:01 PM
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Default Re: WFA 7/22 (new mixed martial arts org)

Speaking of Griffin/Bonnar 2 and Hughes/GSP 2, the lines are now up at DSI: -200/+170 and -140/+120 with $500 limits. I'm in on both the favorites.
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Old 07-19-2006, 07:11 PM
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Default Re: lines are out:

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From betonfighting.com, which doesnt have the most competative lines, but still gives a good idea of what we can expect:

bas -670
kimo +545

rampage -225
lindlan +195

mayhem -355
lodune +295

machida -700
white +550

ricco -120
waterman ev

salaverry -300
santore +250

[censored] it, im stacking up on mayhem and salaverry.

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I'm with ya...I'm upset about the Bas line...can't see myself putting anything on that. I'm really really liking the Ricco Rodriguez and Lindland lines. Has everyone forgotten who Ricco is? Not a ton of heavyweights I'd rather have underneath Waterman.
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Old 07-19-2006, 08:18 PM
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Default Re: lines are out:

Lindland is an amazing value at that price. Rampage hasn't looked good in years, and Lindland is boring, but wins. It should be a pick em at worst, if not Lindland as a small favorite.

3 years ago this line may have made sense. Maybe Rampage is back, but I gotta see it first.
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Old 07-19-2006, 08:30 PM
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Default Re: lines are out:

I heard Rampage gets a cut of the gate/PPV only if he wins. He's all about the cash so he should be well prepared/motivated. Also, Lindland is moving up from 185.
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