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Old 06-08-2006, 04:12 PM
iRockhoes1 iRockhoes1 is offline
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Default Re: 10-20 NL Folding bottom set vs a lizard

Yes I was confused, but I still have it all in, as now my read on the opponent's range has changed. He now could easily be making a move with 98, any 8, 97 ect. If you have a read that this guy is the tightest player in the world, then you can probably fold, but if you have that strong of a read, there is no point to us critiquing this hand.
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Old 06-08-2006, 04:17 PM
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Default Re: 10-20 NL Folding bottom set vs a lizard

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Yes I was confused, but I still have it all in, as now my read on the opponent's range has changed. He now could easily be making a move with 98, any 8, 97 ect. If you have a read that this guy is the tightest player in the world, then you can probably fold, but if you have that strong of a read, there is no point to us critiquing this hand.

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maybe not you but the others that play in this game... hek prev bld and whoever else .

there's alot of players on this board that know this guy that's why I'm posting it like this.

The comments were still appreciated tho.
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Old 06-08-2006, 04:21 PM
allenciox allenciox is offline
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Default Re: 10-20 NL Folding bottom set vs a lizard

I think there are other possible hands that have not been mentioned. Here's Pokerstove with one possible range:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 42.9403 % 42.54% 00.40% { 6d6s }
Hand 2: 57.0597 % 56.66% 00.40% { TT-77, T8s+, 97s+, T8o+, 97o+ }



With the odds you're being given, (assuming all-in), it's pretty close.
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Old 06-08-2006, 04:36 PM
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Default Re: 10-20 NL Folding bottom set vs a lizard

Do people at 10-20 really 3-bet TT on this flop in a multiway pot?

Really?
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Old 06-08-2006, 04:45 PM
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Default Re: 10-20 NL Folding bottom set vs a lizard

I think 88/89 is doing this too, esp 88. I dont know if villian would reraise 88.

- B
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Old 06-08-2006, 05:02 PM
Prevaricator Prevaricator is offline
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Default Re: 10-20 NL Folding bottom set vs a lizard

depends a lot on how he views you. The way I view you, however, I do not mind the fold. Read on UTG is important too, who is that. this would be a nice play for him to make with 88 if he knew both of you are capable of folding.
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Old 06-08-2006, 05:09 PM
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Default Re: 10-20 NL Folding bottom set vs a lizard

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I think there are other possible hands that have not been mentioned. Here's Pokerstove with one possible range:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 42.9403 % 42.54% 00.40% { 6d6s }
Hand 2: 57.0597 % 56.66% 00.40% { TT-77, T8s+, 97s+, T8o+, 97o+ }



With the odds you're being given, (assuming all-in), it's pretty close.

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These are the preflop numbers. Apparently you didn't fill in the board of 6h 7c 9s...
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Old 06-08-2006, 05:10 PM
Lefort Lefort is offline
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Default Re: 10-20 NL Folding bottom set vs a lizard

The only two hands you are worried about is 99 and 77. Assuming you have zero fold equity and you are pushing if not folding, you are putting in $1500 to win $2700 (roughly). Thus you're getting 35%. You are 35% against a straight, thus zero EV. So at this point the question is whether he is going to have 99/77 more than 50% of the times that he DOESN'T have the straight. (Because again, if he's got the straight its virtually 0 EV.) If the answer is yes, fold.
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Old 06-08-2006, 05:31 PM
EmpireMaker2 EmpireMaker2 is offline
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Default Re: 10-20 NL Folding bottom set vs a lizard

Im pretty sure he has a set and you lose....

But its an easy push sir
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Old 06-08-2006, 05:44 PM
Caldarooni Caldarooni is offline
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Default Re: 10-20 NL Folding bottom set vs a lizard

OMFG!! WE HAVE A SET!!! HOW CAN WE FOLD????

Seriously, some of you guys really piss me off.

A monkey can type this is an easy push, but someone explain why.

I have no problem with this fold given the current facts.
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