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#31
05-11-2006, 03:18 PM
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Re: Bax vs Steve ( Stars Stuper )
who decides to stop and go come hell or high water with 20BB left?
I struggled to come up with a range, and the best I could do was KJ, especially if it helpfully contained the Ks (since it can't be KJs) or Axs (again, can't be AJs, which would be a very obvious choice for a push, in hindsight.) Still, the only way this push makes sense as a monster hand is if bax somehow got a read on Steve which, being online makes it bloody unlikely. 
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#32
05-11-2006, 03:40 PM
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Re: Bax vs Steve ( Stars Stuper )
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who decides to stop and go come hell or high water with 20BB left? [/ QUOTE ] I don't know. Especially given the position of the raiser. [ QUOTE ] I struggled to come up with a range, and the best I could do was KJ, especially if it helpfully contained the Ks (since it can't be KJs) or Axs (again, can't be AJs, which would be a very obvious choice for a push, in hindsight.) [/ QUOTE ] I think I should have removed my cards from the HH. I think it makes the most sense to look at the push from Steve's perspective. If this wasn't just Bax playing on tilt, I assume he is making this move with some range of hands which includes KsJs and AsJs... I never make plays like this, which is why I found it somewhat interesting.
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#34
05-11-2006, 06:01 PM
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Re: Bax vs Steve ( Stars Stuper )
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] there is no hand for which it is reasonable to push here. [/ QUOTE ] I disagree. [/ QUOTE ] I disagree with your disagreement. [/ QUOTE ] Standard.
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#35
05-11-2006, 11:32 PM
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Re: Bax vs Steve ( Stars Stuper )
Frankly I think this hand is incomprehensibly bad by bax. As far as I know I've never played with him, so I assume he doesn't have much of a read on me. If he does, it would be second hand and I assume would include the words "calling station" or at least "doesn't make big folds". With that in mind, his play is awful. I can't think of a hand it's good with (people who think this is a good play with AKo need to reconsider). Like funki said, check-pushing draws is better because I still fold AK and he gets a c-bet out of it. I would love to hear his reasoning behind it (and I hope he had to be somewhere else or something).
Steve
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#36
05-11-2006, 11:36 PM
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Re: Bax vs Steve ( Stars Stuper )
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it would be second hand and I assume would include the words "calling station" or at least "doesn't make big folds". [/ QUOTE ] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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#37
05-11-2006, 11:41 PM
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Re: Bax vs Steve ( Stars Stuper )
I'm at a table with bax, and I told him to holla at this thread.
edit: supernova9: bax, i don't know if you saw or not, but there is a thread that may interest you on the first page on 2+2 in MTT JohnnyBax: someone sent it to me a little while ago supernova9: k JohnnyBax: i will look at it in the am JohnnyBax: ty bro supernova9: no prob
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#38
05-11-2006, 11:42 PM
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Re: Bax vs Steve ( Stars Stuper )
I agree that it is incomprehensibly bad and without a read on you I agree that there is really no hand that he could have which would make this line reasonable.
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#39
05-11-2006, 11:44 PM
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Re: Bax vs Steve ( Stars Stuper )
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I agree that it is incomprehensibly bad and without a read on you I agree that there is really no hand that he could have which would make this line reasonable. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] there is no hand for which it is reasonable to push here. [/ QUOTE ] I disagree. [/ QUOTE ] Change of heart?
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#40
05-11-2006, 11:46 PM
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Re: Bax vs Steve ( Stars Stuper )
The hands I like a push on are 22 and TT if he has a read that Steve will not fold. If he has no idea who Steve is, then I prefer the check line.
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