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Old 05-05-2006, 01:35 PM
yvesaint yvesaint is offline
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Default Re: How to play a combo draw?

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I repeat - if i would suddenly decide to go to high stakes forum and give strategy advices, i would expect to be flamed away.


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so youre saying you can only comment on hands if you play those stakes.
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Old 05-05-2006, 01:37 PM
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Default Re: How to play a combo draw?

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I agree he was a dick, and actually thought it was funny that the guy he insulted gave pretty good advice. But I really disagree that you should not play this hand from the blind for $4 more here. He hit a nice flop that is ahead of the villians range. So he is in an +EV situation and the only question is what is the most +EV way to pay this. And to OP, you are being ridiculously results oriented in addition to being a dick. So this time villian had TT and top set. Other times he could have AA, other times he could have 99, other times he could have AK. I think at 200NL against an unknown you should be bet/three betting this all-in 60% of the time and check/calling 40% of the time. As you go higher you should be more willing to bet/3-bet all-in..

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Have you all gone insane?
Where the hell did you find an insult in my post???
Read my reply above, and what i ment by the statement i made.
And stop clinging to that [censored] already, it's beginning to be sick.

Rerarding the hand itself - i simply posted the result of the actual hand and him having a set of 10s.
I didn't not say "he has a set of 10s here, so i should open fold this, cause i am in a bad shape".
Note the OP - i was asking what is the best way to proceed in such matter.
I also disagree with the advices to fold it in such a big pot getting almost 6 to 1, but i will have to think about it.
Basically, unless i flop a straight or a boat, any hand here is dificult to play OOP.
I am not saying, i am going to fold those connectors preflop to raises from now, but it is something worth thinking over.
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Old 05-05-2006, 01:40 PM
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Default Re: How to play a combo draw?

Meh, its fine,

To get them to fold an OP, bet/3-bet is the best choice.


The asking for 4 cents thing is pretty funny.
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Old 05-05-2006, 01:42 PM
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Default Re: How to play a combo draw?

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I repeat - if i would suddenly decide to go to high stakes forum and give strategy advices, i would expect to be flamed away.


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so youre saying you can only comment on hands if you play those stakes.

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Stakes below are fine too, of course, if you went through them as well, but not stakes much higher.
Makes sense to me.
I commented here on hands from 600NL or so as well, but that's as high as i went and i always started with "I play much lower stakes, but IMO...".

I honestly don't feel that someone who plays microlimits should give strategy advices on mid-stakes.
I am not being condescending here at all, as i said - i shouldn't be giving advices on high stakes either.
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Old 05-05-2006, 01:44 PM
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*yawn*
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Old 05-05-2006, 01:45 PM
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Meh, its fine,

To get them to fold an OP, bet/3-bet is the best choice.


The asking for 4 cents thing is pretty funny.

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Once i c/r and they push for the remainder of the stack (he cbed 15, i c/r to 40, he pushed for 140 or so more), they almost always have a set here or should i still assume, that i am ok vs their range of TT-AA and along with the dead money in the pot i am getting the right odds for a call?
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Old 05-05-2006, 01:46 PM
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*yawn*

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Agreed [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 05-05-2006, 02:24 PM
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Default Re: How to play a combo draw?

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I think at 200NL against an unknown you should be bet/three betting this all-in 60% of the time and check/calling 40% of the time. As you go higher you should be more willing to bet/3-bet all-in..

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Uhh, why would you make this play at $200 against an unknown? People suck here, get their money with a much better edge. The average $200 player isn't folding an overpair or even a potentially higher flush draw. Stupid hand to go broke on.

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Have you all gone insane?
Where the hell did you find an insult in my post???

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You were a dick to someone trying to offer helpful advice, that certainly totally applies to $200NL.


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Basically, unless i flop a straight or a boat, any hand here is dificult to play OOP.
I am not saying, i am going to fold those connectors preflop to raises from now, but it is something worth thinking over.

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Duh, this is why you don't play this this way out of position. You are a huge disadvantage unless you flop the nuts. Additionally, in a multi-way pot with this holding, you are MUCH more likely to be drawing virtually dead on this board.
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Old 05-05-2006, 02:30 PM
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BWD, bet-3bet all-in. There we go.
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Old 05-05-2006, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: How to play a combo draw?

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Have you all gone insane?
Where the hell did you find an insult in my post???

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hahaha
I never insulted you, you douchebag
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