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Old 07-20-2006, 04:25 PM
subzero subzero is offline
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...I am really beginning to hate AK, and I've been trying to keep my raises with it fairly small to avoid playing in bit pots (obviously doesn't work though, does it?)

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So your raise is bigger when you hold AA-QQ? I wouldn't vary your raises this way.

Since villain started with 60BBs, I'm tempted to just pay the set if he has it. Just push the turn.
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Old 07-20-2006, 04:40 PM
bilbo-san bilbo-san is offline
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I just reraise him AI on the flop , he only has like 22 left and was only playing with about 1/2 stack PF. If you are gonna just call down his stack anyways why not just get it all in on the flop?

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Because you lose the same if behind and may not win as much if ahead? Because you lose the value of your position for the rest of the hand?

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so just call down like a donk instead ? ok sure
You have the best hand here more than you dont and if he is willing to raise then he might also call the AI with a 2nd best hand like AJ. If he was bluff raising or semi bluff raising then you are not going to get much out of him anyways. You still get value out of your position by moving in. If he had a full stack I would play it different but shorties can't wait to get their money in with worse hands.

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This isn't limit. In limit, 3-betting the flop in this situation is good because it gets more money in.

In No-Limit, 3-betting the flop in this situation is bad because it gets worse hands to fold too often, and you still lose your stack when you are behind.

Your line in NL should be about making the most money, not about "I don't want to look like a donk and just call down."

If looking like a Donkey makes me the most money, then buy me a ticket to the Hee-Haw train.

Having said that, I usually push the turn here. He could easily be on a draw, and by now there's too much money out there for Ax to fold.
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Old 07-25-2006, 05:55 AM
dardo dardo is offline
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Default Re: Going broke with 1 pair

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Shove the turn. You're calling a bet on a blank river anyways, and villain does not have air here (and if he did, he wouldn't bluff the river, so just calling doesn't induce any bluffs). I think villain's too short to seriously consider folding, plus he might easily be on a draw.

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I think this is the point. Villain is simply not deep enough. Although, without any reads I would just fold the flop.

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Old 07-25-2006, 06:06 AM
MannyIsGod MannyIsGod is offline
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Ok, so many of you put him on a draw.

How do you play if the Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] comes on the turn instead?
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Old 08-18-2006, 01:59 PM
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Default Re: Going broke with 1 pair

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Ok, so many of you put him on a draw.

How do you play if the Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] comes on the turn instead?

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Push, push and push. It's 60 BBs you don't even need a full reload. I think it's fine to stack off with TPTK for 60 BB in a HU pot at these stakes.
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