New Party Points System

[4thstreetpete]

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Where did you guys hear that dueces gets a 7.5 multiplier? This is the response I got from party:

Dear xxxx,

Thanks for contacting us.

As stated on the website the new PartyPoints program has 4 levels,
Jacks, Queens, Kings and Aces.

However players who earn more than 20,000 standard points in a quarter
would be eligible for special benefits. They will be personally informed
of the details once they earn the required points.

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Unfking believable, I emailed Party asking about the Deuces level (that I learned on 2+2) and got back the exact same email verbatim. Sometimes I wonder why I even bother to go back for more punishment when I actually get more info here on 2+2 than Party's CS support.

Why they have to keep this Deuce level thing top secret is beyond me. Why not just put it out there to make your vip club more attractive and actually attract more people to your site? Had I not been a member of 2+2 I would not know this and probably just play on party occasionally.

[Rainclouds]

Seems like the customer support works as follows:

[customer support bot running]
[email received]
[run keyword spotting algorithm]
[if keyword found then insert corresponding standard email]
[insert random girl's name at the bottom]
[wait 24 hours]
[send email back]

Has anyone ever received a non-standard template email?

[O Twist]

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I've seen some people refer to this in the SSNL Cheese thread and was surprised to not see it being discussed here. I can't login to Party from here: Does anyone have any details? What's changed? Is it good?

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New System:



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For every For every 20 raked hands played, you will earn points based on the following chart*:
Limit games
Limit PartyPoints*
$.05/$.10 0.75
$.10/$.20 0.75
$.15/$.30 0.75
$.25/$.50 1
$.50/$1.00 3.5
$1.00/$2.00 3.5
$2.00/$4.00 11
$3.00/$6.00 14
$5.00/$10.00 15
$10.00/$20.00 17
$15.00/$30.00 17
$20.00/$40.00 17
$30.00/$60.00 18
$50.00/$100.00 30
$100.00/$200.00 35
No-limit and pot-limit games
Blinds PartyPoints*
$.02/$.04 1.25
$.05/$.10 1.25
$.10/$.25 2
$.25/$.50 3
$.50/$1.00 5
$1.00/$2.00 8
$2.00/$4.00 12
$3.00/$6.00 14
$5.00/$10.00 16
$10.00/$20.00 18
$25.00/$50.00 30

So to me if you are aces and you play 10,000 raked hans at say 3/6 limit or n/l you get 10,000 x 14/20 x 4 x x.01= $280.
if you assume rake averages $1.00 per hand (maybe someone has a better number) and your at a average 9 person table
then rakeback rate is 280/10,000/9)= 25.2

I guess that is what the chart is saying. I did this as I didn't quite understand the chart. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] Go ahead "rake" me over the coals.

[Rainclouds]

First part of your calculation is correct, second part is wrong [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

10,000 raked hands equals about 15,000 hands, as 1 in 3 hands see no flop and therefore are not raked.

I don't know about the rake on 3/6 limit, but assume $1 is correct, then the rakeback rate is 280/15,0000/(1/9)=16.8%

Looking at the chart, the limit players get disproportional more party points compared to the NL players and therefore get more 'rakeback'. And wow, look at the difference between 1/2 and 2/4 limit. That's insane. You could virtually make a job out of PP-grinding 12-tabling the 2/4 or 3/6 limit tables!

EDIT: I think I'm wrong about the 1 in 3 that see no flop in limit. That's the case at NL, I actually don't know how that is in limit [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[shipitkthx]

Just so everyone knows this is how I did the calculations for the chart:


I used my massive datamined DB to get the data total hands, # of raked hands, Total Rake taken, and what the average number of players were hand was. (This is all 6max No Limit)

I then calculated the average MGR of each hand like so:

((Total Rake)/(Total Hands))/(Average # of players per hand) = Average MGR Per Hand

I think calculated the average number of Party Points given Per Hand like so:

((Points Per 20 Raked Hands)/20) = Points Per Raked Hand.

(Points Per Raked Hand)*(Total Raked Hands/Total Hands) = Points Per Hand

I then took the Points Per Hand and calculated the expected cash value of those points at each level like so:

(Points Per Hand) * $0.01 * Multiplier = Cash Value Per Hand

I then calculated the big blind/100 equivalent like so:

bb/100 = (Expected Cash Value Per Hand/Big Blind)

I then calculated the rakeback equivalent like so:

RB% = (Expected Cash Value Per Hand/MGR Per Hand)

Also, it appears I had a major error in one of my formulas that was messing up the data, this has now been fixed and the chart has been updated.

[jimmyfingers]

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Also, it appears I had a major error in one of my formulas that was messing up the data, this has now been fixed and the chart has been updated.

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updated and hidden neatly under your pillow?

[shipitkthx]

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Also, it appears I had a major error in one of my formulas that was messing up the data, this has now been fixed and the chart has been updated.

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updated and hidden neatly under your pillow?

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Reload this page, the numbers on the graphic are now correct. I'm good like that.

[O Twist]

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First part of your calculation is correct, second part is wrong [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

10,000 raked hands equals about 15,000 hands, as 1 in 3 hands see no flop and therefore are not raked.

I don't know about the rake on 3/6 limit, but assume $1 is correct, then the rakeback rate is 280/15,0000/(1/9)=16.8%

Looking at the chart, the limit players get disproportional more party points compared to the NL players and therefore get more 'rakeback'. And wow, look at the difference between 1/2 and 2/4 limit. That's insane. You could virtually make a job out of PP-grinding 12-tabling the 2/4 or 3/6 limit tables!

EDIT: I think I'm wrong about the 1 in 3 that see no flop in limit. That's the case at NL, I actually don't know how that is in limit [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I don't think nonraked hands matters as I am refering to raked hands played in both cases not total hands as they do not produce
rakeback or points so I think they are nebulous as far as calc goes. My $1 was estimate for raked hands only. It might be a little off.

[Sciolist]

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Seems like the customer support works as follows:

[customer support bot running]
[email received]
[run keyword spotting algorithm]
[if keyword found then insert corresponding standard email]
[insert random girl's name at the bottom]
[wait 24 hours]
[send email back]

Has anyone ever received a non-standard template email?

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Apparently they are discouraged from answering mails with anything but templates.

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Can someone please PM me about 'the unmentionable' on Party.. any details appreciated..
Cheers.