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Old 03-24-2006, 08:48 PM
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Default Re: Hee Seop Choi to the Red Sox, for NOTHING.

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27 years old. Lifetime avg of .240 and 40 HRs.

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OBP has to be factored in. Which I am sure Theo thought about. And the price was right (well below right).

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Old 03-24-2006, 08:49 PM
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If he still had an option then I really don't get it.

Maybe he had a fallout with somebody?
Which is difficult since he speaks little english.
Maybe his translator set him up [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]?

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I know you are joking, but was Paul fired before or after the Nomar signing?

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before.
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Old 03-24-2006, 08:49 PM
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Default Re: Hee Seop Choi to the Red Sox, for NOTHING.

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27 years old. Lifetime avg of .240 and 40 HRs.

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OBP has to be factored in. Which I am sure Theo thought about. And the price was right (well below right).

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Old 03-24-2006, 08:51 PM
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Choi is nothing but a backup first basemen He's a good backup, but a backup none the less.

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in your opinion. personally, i think he should start for the red sox and youk at 3B. if a guy can start at 1B for a 90 win+ team, then hes not a 'solid backup'.

his top 3 comps for this year are:

ortiz 2003
kusick 1976
durazo 2001
hafner 2004

those are not 'backup' seasons. of course he may not have a season like any of those guys, but his career to this point shows huge similarities to guys ready to "breakout".

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There is a pretty big difference in body type between those guys and Choi.
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Old 03-24-2006, 08:58 PM
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Default Re: Hee Seop Choi to the Red Sox, for NOTHING.

why are some teams so stupid. (meaning the dodgers)

looking forward to hearing nate the great's view on this one,

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Old 03-24-2006, 08:58 PM
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Default Re: Hee Seop Choi to the Red Sox, for NOTHING.

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27 years old. Lifetime avg of .240 and 40 HRs.

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OBP has to be factored in. Which I am sure Theo thought about. And the price was right (well below right).

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Will that increase in BOS? Will his SLG increase in BOS?

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Old 03-24-2006, 09:01 PM
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Default Re: Hee Seop Choi to the Red Sox, for NOTHING.

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Choi is nothing but a backup first basemen He's a good backup, but a backup none the less.

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in your opinion. personally, i think he should start for the red sox and youk at 3B. if a guy can start at 1B for a 90 win+ team, then hes not a 'solid backup'.

his top 3 comps for this year are:

ortiz 2003
kusick 1976
durazo 2001
hafner 2004

those are not 'backup' seasons. of course he may not have a season like any of those guys, but his career to this point shows huge similarities to guys ready to "breakout".

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There is a pretty big difference in body type between those guys and Choi.

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choi 6'5 245
ortiz 6'4 230
hafner 6'3 240
durazo 6'3 240
kusick 6'3 232

now i havent seen much of choi on film, so i may be unaware of a 3rd testicle or tail or something.
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Old 03-24-2006, 09:01 PM
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27 years old. Lifetime avg of .240 and 40 HRs.

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OBP has to be factored in. Which I am sure Theo thought about. And the price was right (well below right).

craig

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Will that increase in BOS? Will his SLG increase in BOS?

craig

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The guy has always come off as passive and now he is going to deliver in the pressure of Boston?

I'm just not a believer.

That said it still doesn't make sense the Dodgers gave him up for nothing.
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Old 03-24-2006, 09:05 PM
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Default Re: Hee Seop Choi to the Red Sox, for NOTHING.

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27 years old. Lifetime avg of .240 and 40 HRs.

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OBP has to be factored in. Which I am sure Theo thought about. And the price was right (well below right).

craig

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.349 WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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Will that increase in BOS? Will his SLG increase in BOS?

craig

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The guy has always come off as passive and now he is going to deliver in the pressure of Boston?

I'm just not a believer.

That said it still doesn't make sense the Dodgers gave him up for nothing.

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I don't know if he will be able to deliver in BOS. I am not good at measuring intangibles and I am sure there are passive people in BOS that did well (Bellhorn). But, for 350K or whatever it is, you don't think it is worth a shot?

Either way, I am glad we agree that the LAD should have at least tried to get something. He is only 27 and has a lot of upside for 350K.

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Old 03-24-2006, 09:08 PM
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Default Re: Hee Seop Choi to the Red Sox, for NOTHING.

One difference between Choi and Ortiz/Hafner is, scouts were still very high on Ortiz/Hafner as hitters when they broke out. Choi has supposedly lost bat speed since he put up those monster numbers in the minors, making his comps not quite as effective.

One thing that is similar amongst those players (I don't know anything about the guy from the 70's) is that they are all DH's.
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