5/10 hu preflop decision for stacks with 88

[wdrzich]

btw, this is KK as much as it is 77 for sure

[EC10]

btw, i disagree with like everything youve said in this thread

[FireStorm]

Very little of this guy's range is pairs lower than yours, if at all. A reasonably range is 66+ and AJs+, you don't fare well against this. You cannot completely discount AA/KK/QQ because some people play these hands in this fashion, getting it in when given the opportunity. Add that to the prevalence of TT and JJ, and the fact that you flip a lot of his other hands, and this is a losing call. If he's willing to overbet like a maniac like this, other spots to pick him off will arise.

[EC10]

we already established hes more aggro and a little crazy based on the first 20 hands.

i know it seems like im just being stubborn as hell and not changing my mind but its because every time someone makes a point i disagree with it. for what reason would we discount small pairs? he shoved fast for 900 more. why would we think he likes his hand?

[wdrzich]

another spot i think you're missing is that your edge over someone like this (in all likelihood) is probably better than +<50$ or -<$100 in EV

[EC10]

actually thats like the first point in this thread that i really agree with and didnt realize before. but whats to say that he would leave/stay after winning/losing this pot? usually over aggro players like these arent hit n runners i dont think

[jsnipes28]

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actually thats like the first point in this thread that i really agree with and didnt realize before. but whats to say that he would leave/stay after winning/losing this pot? usually over aggro players like these arent hit n runners i dont think

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ive found overaggro players are much more likely to hitnrun. they are trying to get their money and in and have something happen. i can easily see him leaving if he stacks you here

[EC10]

yeh i suppose thats really the only thing leaning me towards fold, although i certainly didnt consider that aspect at the time

if people want to go ahead and keep discussing feel free, results in white fwiw

<font color="white"> i held vs 33 </font>

[jfish]

why would him hit and running have anything to do with whether or not you should call?

[EC10]

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another spot i think you're missing is that your edge over someone like this (in all likelihood) is probably better than +&lt;50$ or -&lt;$100 in EV

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