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09-28-2007, 10:42 AM
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Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
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In particular, his stop-loss strategy and tendency to buy in short means you're VERY unlikely to take him for a big score. He quits as soon as he starts to lose. So why does anyone play him? [/ QUOTE ] You're right. Ivey has figured out a stop loss strategy that makes it -EV to play him. Unexploitable. 
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#33
09-28-2007, 11:24 AM
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Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
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[ QUOTE ] In particular, his stop-loss strategy and tendency to buy in short means you're VERY unlikely to take him for a big score. He quits as soon as he starts to lose. So why does anyone play him? [/ QUOTE ] You're right. Ivey has figured out a stop loss strategy that makes it -EV to play him. Unexploitable. [/ QUOTE ] If you're being ironic, I don't care. The guy quits when he's down at most 100k , what you going to do? Your losses will be bigger than your wins.
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#34
09-28-2007, 11:32 AM
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Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] In particular, his stop-loss strategy and tendency to buy in short means you're VERY unlikely to take him for a big score. He quits as soon as he starts to lose. So why does anyone play him? [/ QUOTE ] You're right. Ivey has figured out a stop loss strategy that makes it -EV to play him. Unexploitable. [/ QUOTE ] If you're being ironic, I don't care. The guy quits when he's down at most 100k , what you going to do? Your losses will be bigger than your wins. [/ QUOTE ] Stop loss strategy's are only good if you play worse when losing. There's no other benefit to them EV-wise. Yes, I think I'm +EV vs. Ivey.
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#35
09-28-2007, 11:44 AM
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Yes, I think I'm +EV vs. Ivey. [/ QUOTE ] I've got a feeling he's happy you think you are +Ev too [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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#36
09-28-2007, 12:03 PM
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Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
lol @ people acting like Phil Ivey is unbeatable.
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#38
09-28-2007, 12:15 PM
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Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
I'm sure Jman thinks he's +EV against Ivey because of the stakes, 300/600 doesn't bother Ivey that much and it often reflects in his play. If they played in another setting and higher stakes I think Jman would be more humble about his EV. Nevertheless I'm not saying he would be -EV.
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#39
09-28-2007, 12:20 PM
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Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
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Stop loss strategy's are only good if you play worse when losing. There's no other benefit to them EV-wise. Yes, I think I'm +EV vs. Ivey. [/ QUOTE ] Does Ivey ever tilt? Seems he often quits when he loses a buy-in to an outdraw, to preclude the possibility of tilt before it happens. In comparison to Benyamine and Gus he doesn't play super-long sessions, though he will stay for the kill when he's winning big. And he always buys in short, quits when down a few, so doesn't risk much of his own money. He seems in every way the nightmare opponent.
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