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#31
10-22-2007, 09:25 AM
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Re: this is probably why goofyballer thinks i am nuts
Don't bluff tight villains who are valuebetting.
Also, your turn bet is weak. With the as played turn bet your rivershove is awful. With the as played turn bet your turn bet is horrible. 
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#32
10-22-2007, 09:28 AM
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Re: this is probably why goofyballer thinks i am nuts
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i think some of you are missing how mammoth op's hand looks. what do you guys need to call if you're the villain? [/ QUOTE ] if we're villain what do we show up with that we don't call with? not much imo, although villains line is a bit weird.
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#33
10-22-2007, 09:29 AM
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Re: this is probably why goofyballer thinks i am nuts
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not horrific, but probably -EV [/ QUOTE ]
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#34
10-22-2007, 09:44 AM
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Re: this is probably why goofyballer thinks i am nuts
Meh. If he's a thinking villain it's really hard for him to call you with anything that he was calling with earlier.
His range here is gonna be like PPs 77 and under (maybe 88/99/TT), half of which are sets, and SCs- which we can probably rule out because of the way the board is (only logical one for him to call with on flop is 7s6s and the 7s came on the river). I guess he could have 98, but I just don't see him betting that out on the river. If randomly he has a baby flush here, he's not folding, but if he has a set it's really, really hard for him to call since there are three to a straight and 3 to a flush out there. Still dunno if I like it thought without lots of history and a stronger read.
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#35
10-22-2007, 09:45 AM
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Re: this is probably why goofyballer thinks i am nuts
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Also, your turn bet is weak. [/ QUOTE ] Why is the turn bet weak? This is basically a blank card and he's still firing, that would scare the crap out of me.
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#36
10-22-2007, 09:47 AM
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Re: this is probably why goofyballer thinks i am nuts
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[ QUOTE ] Also, your turn bet is weak. [/ QUOTE ] Why is the turn bet weak? This is basically a blank card and he's still firing, that would scare the crap out of me. [/ QUOTE ] My bad. I thought it was weaker than it actually is. Still, if you're gonna double barrel do it good. He's not folding anything to that bet on that turncard.
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#38
10-22-2007, 09:57 AM
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Re: this is probably why goofyballer thinks i am nuts
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i think he has a set, and will probably call river. [/ QUOTE ] how the [censored] is he supposed to call river with a set? op didn't say anything about the villain being horrible.
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#39
10-22-2007, 10:12 AM
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Re: this is probably why goofyballer thinks i am nuts
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Don't bluff tight villains who are valuebetting. [/ QUOTE ] are these not the best people to bluff overall i don't like it though. you don't have to win every pot
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#40
10-22-2007, 10:26 AM
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Re: this is probably why goofyballer thinks i am nuts
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[ QUOTE ] 1) i am betting this river with anything i am calling $65 with. i believe villain is good enough, despite the donkish appearance of his pre/flop/turn play to recognize this. [/ QUOTE ] By this logic he should never bet any hand here? [/ QUOTE ] I was about to post almost the same thing. Almost. Because by this logic he should only bet bluffs. Thus call and profit. But generally I just don't agree with the reasoning. He won't realise this.
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