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Old 12-03-2006, 08:29 PM
Ryendal Ryendal is offline
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Imagine a table of regulars, where everybody think that if you raise UTG you must have a GOOOOD hand because you are yourself a regular and a huge winning player. Don't you think a raise is so better than you thought at this time ?
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Old 12-03-2006, 08:29 PM
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Default Re: 55$ QJ sorted UTG. blinds 50/100

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shillx: QJs is one of my favorite shoving hands too, but I think it's pretty bad right here. You just aren't that desperate.

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i'm with $hillx.
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Old 12-03-2006, 08:36 PM
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Default Re: 55$ QJ sorted UTG. blinds 50/100

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Imagine a table of regulars, where everybody think that if you raise UTG you must have a GOOOOD hand because you are yourself a regular and a huge winning player. Don't you think a raise is so better than you thought at this time ?

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And then you come to 234th level thinking wich won't help anything here.
This is a $55 sng, this table is not full of huge winning regulars and you have a really easy choice.
You might want to try that play on a 2k on tilt where everyone gives you credit for just NOT pushing, but this just wont happen on this level.
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Old 12-03-2006, 08:38 PM
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Default Re: 55$ QJ sorted UTG. blinds 50/100

it is pretty common to have 2 or even 3 other regulars ( depending of the time when you play ) in this game at this moment of the Sngo.

So I think my argument has some value.
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Old 12-03-2006, 08:43 PM
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Default Re: 55$ QJ sorted UTG. blinds 50/100

and then they'll think 'oh wait why hasnt that guy pushed? he is either a donk (likely) or a huge winning player guy thinking out of boxes and stuff (unlikely)' so they'll either push, sensing your weakness (likely) or fold (crediting you for something you neither are nor have)[unlikely], and then, there are still those regular donks who think theire A5s might be some kind of a hand and happily push you.
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Old 12-03-2006, 08:44 PM
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Default Re: 55$ QJ sorted UTG. blinds 50/100

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Imagine a table of regulars, where everybody think that if you raise UTG you must have a GOOOOD hand because you are yourself a regular and a huge winning player. Don't you think a raise is so better than you thought at this time ?

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Sure you're UTG and they know that, but it doesn't change the fact that if they pick up 99+/AJs+ they're shoving.
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Old 12-03-2006, 08:49 PM
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Sure you're UTG and they know that, but it doesn't change the fact that if they pick up 99+/AJs+ they're shoving.

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it is about 5.5 top percent range ... hard to evaluate
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Old 12-03-2006, 08:52 PM
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Default Re: 55$ QJ sorted UTG. blinds 50/100

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Imagine a table of regulars, where everybody think that if you raise UTG you must have a GOOOOD hand because you are yourself a regular and a huge winning player. Don't you think a raise is so better than you thought at this time ?

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just raise any two cards to 300 utg if you really believe this.
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Old 12-03-2006, 08:54 PM
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Default Re: 55$ QJ sorted UTG. blinds 50/100

it is not because that qj sorted is not the nut that 7 2o is the same hand.

Mmmmmm your last argument is terribly suspicious
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Old 12-03-2006, 09:00 PM
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Default Re: 55$ QJ sorted UTG. blinds 50/100

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Imagine a table of regulars, where everybody think that if you raise UTG you must have a GOOOOD hand because you are yourself a regular and a huge winning player. Don't you think a raise is so better than you thought at this time ?

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just raise any two cards to 300 utg if you really believe this.

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Exactly. You're turning your hand into 72o since you're not going to call a reraise and no one is going to just call against an UTG raiser.
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