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Old 11-11-2007, 03:15 PM
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I just want to say, the Dundee and Irwin pictures changed this thread from being one of the dumbest and most annoying, to quite decent. Well done politics posters.
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Old 11-11-2007, 09:27 PM
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Default Re: Ron Paul is not a historian, he is a politician!

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And LOL at you all thinking that Ron Paul is immune from criticism- guess what kids... he's not.

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Nobody agrees with you more than Paul. When he talks about doing away with the IRS, he states that it will never happen unless the citizens develop a completely different line of thinking of what the role of the federal government is.

Paul has voted against every single unbalanced balance. He believes, as Carter claimed to have, in "zero based budgeting": if you don't have the money to spend, you don't spend it.

He also swears he will never raise payroll taxes. So, you can't have both a bloated federal government and no increase in taxes. Therefore, some agencies would have to go: Dept of Education; give it back to the states. Make the parents get involved and have them make their school answer to them. Do away with Homeland Security; it's nothing more than another layer of federal bureaucracy.

And here's a good one: He'd put the responsibility of the FAA on the private sector. The airlines would hate that, as prices would skyrocket.

A lot of the stuff he talks about would never happen, and he knows that.

But here's what he can do:

No covert operations in other countries, i.e., helping overthrow govt's for our own personal benefit.

Remove masses of troops, primarily all of them in Korea. Some 30k. There is no way they can defend Korea from an attack by North Korea. We would have to bomb (conventional) and most of the 30k troops would be killed before we squashed the attack.

The bulk of the troops in Europe would come home. Why are they there?

We wouldn't spend billions on a nuclear missle defense shield in Europe.

He would slash the defense budget, which has been doubled since Bush took over. And that's doubled (or close to it) without taking into account the money spent on the undeclared wars in the Middle East.

We would get border protection.

He would veto every budget that came to him that wasn't balanced.

He would veto any bill that had so much as one earmark in it.
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Old 11-11-2007, 09:49 PM
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He would veto any bill that had so much as one earmark in it.

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Cite? Since he requests earmarks, I'm fairly sure this isn't correct.
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Old 11-11-2007, 09:57 PM
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You remember a while ago about how someone posted Paul's thoughts on earmarks? He thinks they are a good thing because it shifts the responsibility for making appropriation decisions from the bureaucracy to Congress, where he thinks the decisions should be made.
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Old 11-11-2007, 09:57 PM
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He would veto any bill that had so much as one earmark in it.

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Cite? Since he requests earmarks, I'm fairly sure this isn't correct.

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I don't have a citation but I'm pretty sure he would do this. He has requested earmarks saying he's just passing on the requests of his constituents and then voted against the actual bills when they come through. I'm pretty sure he'd be vetoing these bills as prez...
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Old 11-11-2007, 10:09 PM
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He would veto any bill that had so much as one earmark in it.

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Cite? Since he requests earmarks, I'm fairly sure this isn't correct.

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I can't cite it. I've been watching the videos on youtube a lot this week. I would not make it up, and I would admit it if I was not sure that was what I heard. He may have said it on t.v.

Do you know that he voted against giving Rosa Parks the Medal of Honor? He was the only one who voted against it.

He believes that the federal government does not have the right to spend our money on things like that. He did, however, go around to congressmen/women and offer to kick in $100.00 if they would, to give her the medal. I guess it's an expensive medal, and/or has other costs associated with it.

He said that was one of the hardest votes he has every made, as he is a staunch supporter of civil disobedience and individualism, which gives Ms. Parks the same right to sit at the front of the bus as anyone else.

This I watched him say on t.v. on an after-debate interview.
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Old 11-11-2007, 10:15 PM
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I don't believe he did that!
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Old 11-11-2007, 10:25 PM
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I don't believe he did that!

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What? that he voted against giving Ms. Parks the Medal of Honor?

It is a fact. Go to his official website and ask for an explaination.

I'm telling you this guy is a radical when it comes to the federal government. He believes it is much bigger than it should be.

I can't think of any reason to not vote for him....yet.


I believe I saw this on CNN shortly after he raised the 4 million in 24 hrs. They covered several House votes where he was the only one who voted against the bill. The Parks issue was so shocking, that I forgot the rest, but there was one that had to do with declaring some action a genocide. I don't remember what it was, but he was the only one who voted against it.
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Old 11-11-2007, 10:30 PM
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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...art=83&vc=1


I was kidding, check out that thread for basically all of his video appearences.
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Old 11-11-2007, 10:36 PM
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Default Re: Ron Paul is not a historian, he is a politician!

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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...art=83&vc=1

Well stop kidding! You made me waste my time finding the link to the interview with Wolf Blitzer on CNN:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=btFP1tyAJbk


I was kidding, check out that thread for basically all of his video appearences.

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