Potential Multiaccounting in the 530$ WCOOP

[Dunkman]

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I think things are getting out of hand when we start prosecuting players for being good and unknown.

A history limited to 4$ SnGs seems like strong argument against these accounts belonging to the type of people who want to spend 1000$ in weekly Sunday Mil buyins alone. Although I agree that it might be a case of bought accounts - keep in mind that the account would have been bought well into the tournaments - so were no longer comparing the play of these players to the standard of a "4$ sng player", we should be using the standard of a "4$ sng player who won/bought his way into a 530$ tournament and beat out like 95% of the field".

Unless the suggestion is that the accounts were bought prior to the beginning of the tournament for multiaccounting purposes which I suppose is possible, but why wouldn't a multiaccounter just create his own accounts?

I'm not saying don't pass on your thoughts to Stars and discuss and investigate them here, but keep in mind that unknown players coming into huge mtts and winning is common (certainly more common than multiaccounting not matter how widespread the prob is) and we don't have any real evidence to go on.

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This is a good point, I mean my bankroll is only a few thousand dollars, because I play those levels of tournaments/cash is where I feel my game is and where I feel comfortable playing (I just play for fun, and the occasional completely unnecessary electronics purchase when I run good.) However, I have done fairly well for myself outside of poker, and a few thousand dollars doesn't mean much to me. So, 2 years ago I won a seat in the WCOOP ME and decided to play it, even though my biggest tourney before that was probably a $20 FO. I'm not a particularly good player, but compared to many million FTs I've seen I'm like a seasoned pro. I agree that multi-accounting is a concern, but not everyone with < 100k in winnings is multi-accounting.

edit: oh yeah and I agree with imsakidd, I think (3) on that list is against the rules.

[NoahSD]

666 INRI was bad and nitty when I played with him with like 400-600 left.

I played with fred at that time too but couldn't really get much of a read. He was kinda loose but wasn't clear if he was good or bad.

[WarDekar]

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FREDMAINIAC is playing like one of the top 10 online MTT pro's, there is NO way the actual player would be able to play the FT bubble (owning Bill Ivey) that well after playing for 15h+ straight...but then maybe we can get Bill Ivey's look at things

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I had Fredmainiac on my immediate right for the first few hours of the tournament (my only table, he busted me).

Even in the early stages of the tournament he was playing pretty solid, aggressive tournament poker and I became a little suspicious at the time to be honest. Also on my left was a player named "CrabLar" who was also playing pretty solid tournament poker with resteal shoves very frequently, he has 6 total tournaments player on Stars prior to this event.

I definitely think there has to be some multi-accounting going on, it's unfortunate we don't really have any way to prove anything though.

[ASPoker8]

wardekar crablar is a 2+2'er, HSNL, vg player

[mastr]

lol crablar is regular cash game player, kingofdrafts on 2p2

[Melchiades]

lol at crablar being suspicious.

[martenJ]

FWIW jan heitmann is a german pro who plays most major events including the wsope me.

dunno if he plays on that account though, his ps acc is "erdnase" afaik

[New2NL]

Why does that make it multi Accounting? I consider myself a good tourney player. My sample size is tiny, why? Because I play cash games, I don't have many hours to give to playing tourney's, (job GF etc..) When I do play a tourney it's usualy something small to just relax and enjoy. My results are great but Avg buyin is low.


Some cash game players who might play 2 / 4 NL only could easily buy in to this event and be totaly under our radar. Also Eurodonks who play on Eurosites.

[Ansky]

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FREDMAINIAC is playing like one of the top 10 online MTT pro's, there is NO way the actual player would be able to play the FT bubble (owning Bill Ivey) that well after playing for 15h+ straight...but then maybe we can get Bill Ivey's look at things

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I had Fredmainiac on my immediate right for the first few hours of the tournament (my only table, he busted me).

Even in the early stages of the tournament he was playing pretty solid, aggressive tournament poker and I became a little suspicious at the time to be honest. Also on my left was a player named "CrabLar" who was also playing pretty solid tournament poker with resteal shoves very frequently, he has 6 total tournaments player on Stars prior to this event.

I definitely think there has to be some multi-accounting going on, it's unfortunate we don't really have any way to prove anything though.

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lol, crablar is one of the better 5/10, 10/20 nl regs, who was asking me some tournament advice for a portion of the tournament.

btw did u fold QQ in that KT97x board?

Also: MTT folks, when someone plays real good, consider the fact that its not that hard to play good in MTTs. It's hard to play exceptionally well, but if u are just doing avg decent moves and stuff you can look like a genius if ppl dont see your cards.

[Jackal69]

yea that Crablar is a huge donk, it must be lilholdem or someone playing on the account...