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open fold up to 66...
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I raise this. And then I fold/call depending on the 3betting frequency of the opponent.
If I raise to 520, and I'm getting shoved over by any opponent that has 66+,ATs+,AJo, and I'm still folding, then this is a +cEV play. Of course if the opponent is shoving 22+,A8+,KJs+, and I'm folding, then it's -cEV. |
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I folded hooray
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btw when I say unexploitable in this spot, I mean if cards were face up. I know that doesn't mean "unexploitable". I'm sure you could come up with some unexploitable pushing ranges that would include 33. Whether these ranges would be good practical ranges is another question. For instance this is not a spot where you'd want to open push AA/KK, so to include them in any kind of range would be counterproductive, just so that you could safely push 33 in this spot.
blah blah, moral of story is I just fold. |
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Who cares what's unexploitable? Just put in reasonable calling ranges and see whether it's profitable.
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fwiw, the fact that this is a 100 FO makes this a shove IMO
it's not like ppl at this level know correct calling ranges or anything 200r and this is a fold, yes |
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fwiw, the fact that this is a 100 FO makes this a shove IMO it's not like ppl at this level know correct calling ranges or anything 200r and this is a fold, yes [/ QUOTE ] Holla. Don't have SNGPT here, but I remember thinking that with people's realistic calling ranges, shoving is +EV, although not by much. |
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fwiw, the fact that this is a 100 FO makes this a shove IMO it's not like ppl at this level know correct calling ranges or anything 200r and this is a fold, yes [/ QUOTE ] People aren't folding stuff like 88 and AQo here. |
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If any program says it's very slightly +EV to push, that probably means it's -EV due to the small chance of being called in two places (and going against AK and 99 etc). Also the edge has to be more than really tiny for me to want to open push here.
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If any program says it's very slightly +EV to push, that probably means it's -EV due to the small chance of being called in two places (and going against AK and 99 etc). Also the edge has to be more than really tiny for me to want to open push here. [/ QUOTE ] I never thought of that. Pls post more. |
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