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Re: defending vs squeeze: options, options..
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] lol im a moron. i thought you were being squeezed, not the coldcaller. if youd 3bet smallish here, id put you on air or a small PP. (55-99) [/ QUOTE ] 4bet, and ok. [/ QUOTE ] oh yeah, 4bet, sry. would you ever coldcall a big pair or AK to induce a squeeze? i figure you would, does villain know this? [/ QUOTE ] who cares if he does [/ QUOTE ] well, then hell more than likely read it as weakness. this is esp. because we coldcalled and werent the original raiser. |
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Re: defending vs squeeze: options, options..
in terms of showing strength:
shove > call and showing strength on flop > 4betting as for which i'd do, i wouldn't call pf, but given you have, i'd probs shove for meta. |
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Re: defending vs squeeze: options, options..
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] lol im a moron. i thought you were being squeezed, not the coldcaller. if youd 3bet smallish here, id put you on air or a small PP. (55-99) [/ QUOTE ] 4bet, and ok. [/ QUOTE ] oh yeah, 4bet, sry. would you ever coldcall a big pair or AK to induce a squeeze? i figure you would, does villain know this? [/ QUOTE ] who cares if he does [/ QUOTE ] because he will assume your hand is JJ/AQ or worse and play perfectly against that range. |
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Re: defending vs squeeze: options, options..
calling pre seems for me the best option. but even folding is sure not wrong here. ATs is not so good against the range of a reraise as maybe some thinking.
if he has TT+, AK,AQ,AJ we are in very bad shape. |
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Re: defending vs squeeze: options, options..
this thread is tilting me
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#36
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Re: defending vs squeeze: options, options..
Honestly this just seems like a math problem to me in regards to 4 bet call shove/fold debate. Figure out his repop range and then figure he will only push over the top with TT+ AK, AQs and see how that EV stacks up vs ATs.
Honestly all the choices you provided kinda suck, so I might just fold, and start coldcalling some big PPs to [censored] with him. He prob. wont adjust to your coldcall 4 bet range and will still give you credit for AT every once in awhile even if you never do it without JJ+ imo. People arent that good at poker. |
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Re: defending vs squeeze: options, options..
you're thinking of calling a RERAISE
with ACE TEN??? WHAT???????!? |
#38
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Re: defending vs squeeze: options, options..
why even ask if youre gonna disagree/get tilted when lots of posters (amongst them pretty well respected ones) advocate another line you and jones would take?
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Re: defending vs squeeze: options, options..
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why even ask if youre gonna disagree/get tilted when lots of posters (amongst them pretty well respected ones) advocate another line you and jones would take? [/ QUOTE ] youre right, it was just the tone of several responses. i agree with lefort, djsensei and others regarding this hand. i just think that a lot of the discussion is pretty irrelevant and more focused on "no matter what you do, any good player will outplay you" sort of thing. but ya youre right. |
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Re: defending vs squeeze: options, options..
4 betting would be horrendous unless you love to call reraise on the button a lot with big pairs which i doubt you do.Best option is fold, failing that call.
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