tough spot vs wiltontilt

[jfish]

i think both are super close and have very high variance. but call/call MIGHT have higher EV.

[jsnipes28]

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i push here. This looks like a combo draw so hard.

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rofl, this is so bad.

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yeah ur right my bad

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sorry, i should have expanded. basically i think when called you are going to be in very bad shape and even if he calls off w/ random draw he's going to have plenty of outs. the vast majority of his folding range is going to be pure air IMO and his calling range is going to crush us. perhaps some think that he is almost never bluffing this turn (i don't think its the case) and think that it's comprised of all combo draws (I also don't subscribe to this belief) in which case pushing would make sense.

[Mat]

Do you think call turn c/f river is total spew ? I can't see him bluff often on the river if you b/c that turn.

[AP81]

Seems like a super standard call to me.

[DJ Sensei]

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Do you think call turn c/f river is total spew ? I can't see him bluff often on the river if you b/c that turn.

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lol really? thats a fantastic board to bluff river on, like 525125125% of jfish's range after bet-calling turn is draws, with or without one mid pair. Any clean river is open season to bluff.

so, c/c good rivers and c/f bad ones seems pretty reasonable, i think.

[AcTiOnJaCsOn]

agaist wiltontilt fold here and dont even really think twice about it, even if your good here he can out play us on the river to often with position to profitably play. And also the pots not huge on the turn so going all in is risky

[Mat]

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Do you think call turn c/f river is total spew ? I can't see him bluff often on the river if you b/c that turn.

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lol really? thats a fantastic board to bluff river on, like 525125125% of jfish's range after bet-calling turn is draws, with or without one mid pair. Any clean river is open season to bluff.

so, c/c good rivers and c/f bad ones seems pretty reasonable, i think.

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That's what I meant by "often", I would call only on blank rivers but there are not a lot of blanks [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[Melchiades]

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Therefore when he has some type of combo draw, he can always valuebet when he hits and he can bluff with the correct frequency.

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What is the correct frequency with which to bluff and value bet ? This knowledge could really help my game.

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Yeah. Mine too.

[JEFF or DAD]

hot damn i wish i had wiltontilts image, id be outplaying fools left and right on possible future streets

[Triumph36]

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hot damn i wish i had wiltontilts image, id be outplaying fools left and right on possible future streets

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seriously

wtf checks behind and then raises turn

o ya air