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Old 09-25-2007, 07:13 PM
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Default Re: QJs 200BB deep & I have the button

Raising flop > Raising turn
And may it only be for a free card on the turn
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:14 PM
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Default Re: QJs 200BB deep & I have the button

What's strange about his donk donk line? Re-raise pre and lead twice? Seems pretty standard for "Hi I have a strong hand", which is what I expect him to show up with, but he can prob also fold it (and should).

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Raising flop > Raising turn
And may it only be for a free card on the turn

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We can also shove turn for like $225 into $350 pot...kinda hot! Your hand looks a shitton like QQ/33/55!
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:14 PM
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i think putting villain on a range would be key here

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really?
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:15 PM
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What's strange about his donk donk line? Re-raise pre and lead twice? Seems pretty standard for "Hi I have a strong hand", which is what I expect him to show up with, but he can prob also fold it (and should).

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Raising flop &gt; Raising turn
And may it only be for a free card on the turn

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We can also shove turn for like $225 into $350 pot...kinda hot! Your hand looks a shitton like QQ/33/55!

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WOOPS, I MISREAD THE HAND. I THOUGHT HERO PFRRED.
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:16 PM
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Default Re: QJs 200BB deep & I have the button

READING COMPREHENSION FTW

ONLY TOOK LIKE 7 POSTS IN THIS THREAD TO FIGURE IT OUT
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:17 PM
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Default Re: QJs 200BB deep & I have the button

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What's strange about his donk donk line? Re-raise pre and lead twice? Seems pretty standard for "Hi I have a strong hand", which is what I expect him to show up with, but he can prob also fold it (and should).

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Raising flop &gt; Raising turn
And may it only be for a free card on the turn

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We can also shove turn for like $225 into $350 pot...kinda hot! Your hand looks a shitton like QQ/33/55!

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OK, yeah pushing turn makes more sense now that i realize villain pfrred

i still think the diff. between pushing turn and calling turn isn't as big as you think
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:17 PM
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READING COMPREHENSION FTL

ONLY TOOK LIKE 10 POSTS IN THIS THREAD TO FIGURE IT OUT

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FMP
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:18 PM
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READING COMPREHENSION FTW

ONLY TOOK LIKE 7 POSTS IN THIS THREAD TO FIGURE IT OUT

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i'm pretty sure i only fold KK on my better days to a turn push from hero if i'm villain
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:21 PM
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Default Re: QJs 200BB deep & I have the button

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Button ($194)
SB ($268.35)
Hero ($401.45)
UTG ($336.05)
MP ($478.60)
CO ($574.25)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $6</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $26</font>, CO calls $20.

Flop: ($53) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $39</font>, CO calls $39.

Turn: ($131) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $95</font>, CO calls $95.

River: ($321) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO puts Hero all-in for $241.45</font>

What do we put CO on to do this on any of these rivers?



PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Button ($194)
SB ($268.35)
Hero ($401.45)
UTG ($336.05)
MP ($478.60)
CO ($574.25)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $6</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $26</font>, CO calls $20.

Flop: ($53) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $39</font>, CO calls $39.

Turn: ($131) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $95</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO puts Hero all-in $336.45</font>


Yeah, that's fairly scary too, esp if we change our hand to KK.
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:25 PM
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Default Re: QJs 200BB deep & I have the button

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Button ($194)
SB ($268.35)
Hero ($401.45)
UTG ($336.05)
MP ($478.60)
CO ($574.25)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $6</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $26</font>, CO calls $20.

Flop: ($53) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $39</font>, CO calls $39.

Turn: ($131) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $95</font>, CO calls $95.

River: ($321) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO puts Hero all-in for $241.45</font>

What do we put CO on to do this on any of these rivers?



PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Button ($194)
SB ($268.35)
Hero ($401.45)
UTG ($336.05)
MP ($478.60)
CO ($574.25)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $6</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $26</font>, CO calls $20.

Flop: ($53) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $39</font>, CO calls $39.

Turn: ($131) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $95</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO puts Hero all-in $336.45</font>


Yeah, that's fairly scary too, esp if we change our hand to KK.

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well yeah, the turn push is scarier than the river push, except w/ the rivered Q

honestly this exact spot gives me quite a bit of trouble, so that's why i'm replying so much, and i'm not 100% sure on correct action
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