Official Limit-->NL Forum No Content Thread! - Page 4

Tryptamean · #1 07-31-2007, 11:32 PM

Here is an example of how bad us limidonks can suck (or maybe just myself)...

I treated this hand just like a limit blind battle.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 ($59.90)
MP3 ($176.90)
CO ($63)
Button ($104.15)
SB ($95.90)
Hero ($143.75)
UTG ($106.85)
UTG+1 ($136.30)
MP1 ($100)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
7 folds, SB completes, Hero raises to $4, SB calls $3.

Flop: ($8) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $6, SB raises to $12, Hero calls $6.

Turn: ($32) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $14, Hero calls $14.

River: ($60) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $20, Hero calls $20.

Final Pot: $100

Results in white below: 
SB has As Ac (one pair, aces).
Hero has Kd 8c (one pair, eights).
Outcome: SB wins $100.

BigPoppa · #2 08-02-2007, 06:39 PM

Hiya

I was a long time limit player with several hundred thousand hands of FR on Party and Pokerroom up to $5/10 and another several hundred thousand of 6max up to $3/6 (mostly on Absolute).

I switched to NL about a year and a half ago and found I had a lot of habits to unlearn. The biggest was calling on the River when likely beat. In Limit you're usually getting 7:1 odds or better, so calling is correct with any piece of the board. In NL, the odds are often closer to 2:1/3:1 and it's almost always correct to fold a marginal hand.

I stopped playing around December while I lived in Asia with crappy internet and just started up again. I play a mix of FR and 6max, with some donkaments thrown in.

I'll try to help out on posts when I have something to contribute. There are definitely better players around, but my advice usually doesn't suck.

sethypooh21 · #3 08-03-2007, 02:28 AM

Jezus, what a beautiful turn card...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($448.60)
UTG ($588.60)
MP ($579.60)
Button ($56)
SB ($93.85)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $8, MP calls $8, 1 fold, SB calls $7, Hero calls $6.

Flop: ($32) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets $20, MP folds, SB folds, Hero calls $20.

Turn: ($72) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $40, Hero raises to $125, UTG calls $85.

River: ($322) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $295.6 (All-In), UTG calls $295.60.

Final Pot: $913.20

Results in white below: 
Hero has 7d 7h (full house, sevens full of aces).
UTG has Kh Ad (three of a kind, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins $913.20.

geormiet · #4 08-03-2007, 02:32 AM

I just got some money in stars so I'm finally getting started with NL.

Fired up some .5/1 tables tonight...after 1 hour I have

-gotten it in pf with QQ vs. AK and lost
-gotten stacked by 44. vs. my AK on an A4x board in pf 3 bet pot (44 called off 1/3 his stack before the flop)
-got it in on the turn with a flush, lost to rivered fh

Its weird, i feel a very different kind of tilt feeling than
I do when I lose some pots in limit...

theblitz · #5 08-03-2007, 03:15 AM

That is the argument that is usually given for those who want to fold KK pre-flop.

Well, maybe this hand will be a lesson to all the folders.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $97.25
UTG+1: $142.35
MP1: $60
MP2: $116.20
CO: $96.50
Button: $68.15
Hero: $21.40
BB: $101.75

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
3 folds, MP2 raises to $3.5, 2 folds, Hero raises to $10, BB folds, MP2 raises to $34.5, Hero calls all-in $11.4.
Uncalled bets: $13.1 returned to MP2.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($43.8, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $43.8)

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($43.8, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $43.8)

River: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($43.8, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $43.8)

Results:
Final pot: $43.8

Results below:
MP2 showed Kc Ac
Hero showed Kd Kh

Solid_p · #6 08-03-2007, 03:28 AM

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That is the argument that is usually given for those who want to fold KK pre-flop.

Well, maybe this hand will be a lesson to all the folders.

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Yeah, there are surely a lot of people who would consider folding KK with ~20 bb stacks...

justin · #7 08-03-2007, 03:42 AM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

MP ($200)
CO ($247)
Hero ($376)
SB ($50.70)
BB ($250.25)
UTG ($40)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, CO raises to $8, Hero calls $8, 2 folds.

Flop: ($19) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $16, CO calls $16.

Turn: ($51) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $42, CO raises to $84, Hero calls $42.

River: ($219) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO bets $139 (All-In), Hero calls $139.

Final Pot: $497

[4d 4c] and lost with a full house, Aces full of Fours

*TT* · #8 08-03-2007, 04:11 AM

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

MP ($200)
CO ($247)
Hero ($376)
SB ($50.70)
BB ($250.25)
UTG ($40)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, CO raises to $8, Hero calls $8, 2 folds.

Flop: ($19) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $16, CO calls $16.

Turn: ($51) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $42, CO raises to $84, Hero calls $42.

River: ($219) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO bets $139 (All-In), Hero calls $139.

Final Pot: $497

[4d 4c] and lost with a full house, Aces full of Fours

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Comments on the turn play please.

inferno · #9 08-03-2007, 05:00 AM

hey guys im back from my holiday wich was fantastic, I have to take care of some stuff and after that I will be active on this forum making a start to NL so wish me luck [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
viva la france [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Matt Flynn · #10 08-04-2007, 02:08 PM

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

MP ($200)
CO ($247)
Hero ($376)
SB ($50.70)
BB ($250.25)
UTG ($40)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, CO raises to $8, Hero calls $8, 2 folds.

Flop: ($19) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $16, CO calls $16.

Turn: ($51) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $42, CO raises to $84, Hero calls $42.

River: ($219) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO bets $139 (All-In), Hero calls $139.

Final Pot: $497

[4d 4c] and lost with a full house, Aces full of Fours

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Comments on the turn play please.

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good bet.