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Old 11-21-2006, 07:11 PM
bigt2k4 bigt2k4 is offline
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Default Re: Justin Morneau wins AL MVP

woohoo, Canada has the best player in the NBA and now the best player in the AL. Can't wait for Vanderjagt to be named NFL MVP. Biakabutaka had a chance until he blew out his knee half way through his rookie season. Maybe, Andy Fantuz or Jesse Lumsden will win one day.
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Old 11-21-2006, 07:12 PM
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Default Re: Justin Morneau wins AL MVP

My ballot
1.Jeter
2. Mauer
3. Sizemore
4. Santana
5. Dye
6. Tejada
7. Hafner
8.Ortiz
9. Halladay
10. Guillen
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Old 11-21-2006, 07:13 PM
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My ballot
1.Jeter
2. Mauer
3. Sizemore
4. Santana

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I pretty much agree with this.

Much love for my boy Sizemore.
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Old 11-21-2006, 07:19 PM
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I'm not one for conspiracies, but this seems like one. I wouldn't be surprised if someone polled the voters and then they semi-agreed on Morneau.

"I don't want to tell you how to vote, but some people who don't want Jeter to win are voting for JM." [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

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Cuz the media hates Jeter, right?
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Old 11-21-2006, 07:28 PM
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Default Re: Justin Morneau wins AL MVP

I'm a Twins fan and I think this is a joke. If someone came up to me yesterday and told me Morneau would win MVP I would have laughed in their face, where the hell did this come from?
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Old 11-21-2006, 07:39 PM
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I can understand people disagreeing with this pick, but were people really that surprised by it? I thought it was pretty obvious that they were going to pick Morneau or Jeter. Most fans follow batting avg, home runs and RBIs... so those are the main statistics they vote on (it seems). Morneau did well in all three categories.
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Old 11-21-2006, 07:49 PM
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And Justin Morneau is a standout guy? He's a middle of the pack first baseman this year. He had 6 homeruns after the all star break.

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???
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Old 11-21-2006, 07:55 PM
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I'm not one for conspiracies, but this seems like one. I wouldn't be surprised if someone polled the voters and then they semi-agreed on Morneau.

"I don't want to tell you how to vote, but some people who don't want Jeter to win are voting for JM." [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

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I second this.
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Old 11-21-2006, 07:55 PM
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bonus points for being canadian

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Clearly this is a communist conspiracy.

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Seriously not one Canadian who has one a major award in the past 10 years has deserved it, excluding the NHL.

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Larry Walker, 1997 NL MVP.
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Old 11-21-2006, 07:58 PM
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I heard on ESPN News that one writer had Jeter 6th. I really want to know who.

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I would have had Jeter around 6th. This isn't exactly leaving 1999 Pedro off the ballot.

It's just baffling that Morneau was the MVP over so many guys who had such an edge in the numbers. I thought these guys looked at HR/RBI totals?

HR/RBI/OPS
54/137/1.049 David Ortiz
35/102/1.058 Manny Ramirez
44/120/1.007 Jermaine Dye
42/117/1.098 Travis Hafner
42/109/1.014 Jim Thome

What do these men all have in common? Much better seasons than Justin Morneau. Frank Thomas, Paul Konerko and Jason Giambi are all right there too.

HR/RBI/OPS
34/130/.934 Justin Morneau

I guess he had a bunch of RBI, but you pick him over a guy with twenty more homeruns and more RBI and a far superior OPS? What in the world is going on in writer land? Jeter and Mauer had decent seasons, but weren't nearly as valuable as any of the guys I've mentioned already. If some other shortstop had that season for the Seattle Mariners he definitely wouldn't have finished in the top 10, and definitely wouldn't have a gold glove.

Oh and just in case people didn't notice cause he plays for a small market team in Minnesota...

W-L/ERA/IP/SO
19-6/2.77/233.2/245 Johan Santana

I think my ballot would've looked like:

1. David Ortiz
2. Travis Hafner
3. Johan Santana
4. Derek Jeter
5. Joe Mauer
6. Roy Halladay
7. Jermaine Dye
8. Carlos Guillen
9. Justin Morneau
10. Jim Thome

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Jeter lead the AL in VORP and his defense was much better (ie. existant) than the two guys closest to him (Ortiz, Hafner).

This is a shaft. I can't say it's along the lines of Bonds in 1991 or Albert Belle in 1995 because there were so many other players that could have deserved it, but if you compare Morneau to Jeter, it's just as bad as those two.
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