TPTK 3 bet pot ~200 bb deep

[ICMoney]

Forget to add I have him at 25/10 over 700 hands.

He 3b oop pf.

The only hand you are losing to is AA.

The A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] are both out so I don't see him defending with QJ [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or something.

He has QQ [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] JJ[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or something stupid.

[ICMoney]

Oh, and don't crowd my table when I'm gunning for CH_13.

Dude's down like $900 or something.

Thanks.

[orange]

betting this turn with the intention of folding to a raise doesnt seem good at all.

[Profish2285]

Orange: When I bet the turn the idea of folding never even crossed my mind tbh. His line made no sense to me at all and I was glad to see that I was right. I just wanted to see if everyone or the majority agreed with me or if I just got lucky and ran into the bottom of his range.

ICMoney: Hahaha I didnt think he was that bad cuz of his stats but never really paid attention to him. I have him at 16/13 on a sample well over 3k hands.

[john voight]

I dont know ch well enough, but I think I might have played w/ him at NL30 deep alot (cant recall). I play w/ him no at NL50 though.

What u need to realize is; calling the all in is a giant spew over the long run. I can see AK taking this line, in which case you are the biggest favorite in history of game, but to think that only AK and a bluff are capable of taking this line is foolish.

If your not capable of calling raise on turn, dont bet it. IDK why you are playing this big of a pot so thin. I mean your not giving up much by checking. And if you really think you can get called by worse hand you can go ahead and vbet river (it'd be much less likely for him to check turn and then cr river IMO)

But you need to think about this when you are playing deep. I mean its not just a little 50bb pot where you easily commit. This is my opinion. IDK.

[john voight]

but if evryone says call, then i guess vs ch calling is correct, but vs unknown this is still a giant spew IMO

[Profish2285]

Against what I thought was a standard tag, his line made no sense at all like I said. I doubt a tag is going to 3 bet with any hand that makes a set here other than AA. Seeing as there is only one combo of AA but obviously enough random hands in his range, I thought I had to call. BTW, I never said he was unknown, I go alot by stats especially when theyre over a fairly large sample and his stats suggested he plays a nitty/tag game. I did think it was thin at the time, but just because its thin doesnt make it wrong. And I dont know why everyone keeps saying if im not capable of calling the turn then dont bet it because I said I snap called. I just like to re evaluate my big hands, didnt see a problem with that.

[ICMoney]

So did he have AA or Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q?

[Profish2285]

QQ

[ICMoney]

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Yeah, that's what I thought.

Dude is an ATM.

Ship it.