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I imagine David would aruge that the fact that Reagan either believed in, or allowed policy to be decided (and when to schedule an appointment is policy) by his wife's belief in, astrology, might well be an indication of--to use David's politically incorrect term--a "moron." I think the evidence is compelling that he was both ignorant and unintelligent. It's not as clear, it seems to me, that he was therefore a bad president. It is clear to me that Jimmy Carter was much more intelligent than Reagan and was much more religious and was also a much less successful president. Nixon was a Quaker and often spoke of his "sainted" mother and her Quaker beliefs. He obviously wasn't a pacifist.
No doubt politicians have to pay lip service to God and that their private beliefs might be quite different than their public pandering. We have never elected a non-Christian president. My point was that the fact that whether or not a presdient was devoutly religious might not be important to their governance. |
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<font color="blue">My point was that the fact that whether or not a presdient was devoutly religious might not be important to their governance. </font>
I'm not sure that follows. I'm not much of a history buff and I'm not trying to be sarcastic here, but... We've both agreed that the two most religious presidents in our lifetimes were Carter and the current Bush. I think by most people's definition they are also two of the worst presidents in our lifetime. Coincedence? |
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[ QUOTE ] Nancy Reagan consulting with an astrologist doesn't mean her husband ever made a decision based on astrology [/ QUOTE ] not true at all, many meetings, trips, and schedules were planned around astrology, although maybe you mean like major policy or something. [/ QUOTE ] I didn't realize this. If true, it certainly speaks to his gullibililty. Still, do we know for a fact that he was also this gullible when it came to religious? |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Nancy Reagan consulting with an astrologist doesn't mean her husband ever made a decision based on astrology [/ QUOTE ] not true at all, many meetings, trips, and schedules were planned around astrology, although maybe you mean like major policy or something. [/ QUOTE ] I didn't realize this. If true, it certainly speaks to his gullibililty. Still, do we know for a fact that he was also this gullible when it came to religious? [/ QUOTE ] An alternative hypothesis is that Mr. Reagan was intelligent enough not to contradict his wife about engaging in such fanciful trivialities. |
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So for you being a mormon is the synonyme for being a complete idiot? I share that view, but I do not restrict it to mormons, in fact I treat all religions the same. [/ QUOTE ]youre missing the nuances. a protestant president GENERALLY will not hold the same strength of conviction as a mormon president ds makes money on such differences................. |
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An alternative hypothesis is that Mr. Reagan was intelligent enough not to contradict his wife about engaging in such fanciful trivialities. [/ QUOTE ] Sadly, the evidence does not support this hypothesis. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_R....27s_protector http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_Quigley |
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We've both agreed that the two most religious presidents in our lifetimes were Carter and the current Bush. [/ QUOTE ] well you realize that bush's whole texan thing is an act, right? I mean, that's admitted. what's not admitted is that the whole christian thing is an act too. I mean if you think bush is a christian you may as well just believe iraq had wmd's and just believe everything. |
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[ QUOTE ] We've both agreed that the two most religious presidents in our lifetimes were Carter and the current Bush. [/ QUOTE ] well you realize that bush's whole texan thing is an act, right? I mean, that's admitted. what's not admitted is that the whole christian thing is an act too. I mean if you think bush is a christian you may as well just believe iraq had wmd's and just believe everything. [/ QUOTE ] If he doesn't think he's a Christian, what reason did he have to veto the stem cell bill this term? |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] We've both agreed that the two most religious presidents in our lifetimes were Carter and the current Bush. [/ QUOTE ] well you realize that bush's whole texan thing is an act, right? I mean, that's admitted. what's not admitted is that the whole christian thing is an act too. I mean if you think bush is a christian you may as well just believe iraq had wmd's and just believe everything. [/ QUOTE ] If he doesn't think he's a Christian, what reason did he have to veto the stem cell bill this term? [/ QUOTE ] 1 - could be because his supporters pressured him to 2 - could be because he believes stem cell research is wrong. does not have to be because he is a christian |
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If he doesn't think he's a Christian, what reason did he have to veto the stem cell bill this term? [/ QUOTE ] d.c. told him to? lol. i don't know. |
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