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Re: need a plan vs a 2+2er
Dude, what?
Bet to charge about a million draws, including sets filling up. Worse hands will call. |
#32
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Re: need a plan vs a 2+2er
i wasnt sure wtf to do on the flop but the turn is the easiest bet ever. 80ish is good
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#33
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Re: need a plan vs a 2+2er
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bet $50. [/ QUOTE ] We shouldn't give him like 4:1 direct, 9:1 implied on this board. At least 80 imo. I realise you're trying to induce but I don't like it on this board and I don't think it will work often enough. |
#34
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Re: need a plan vs a 2+2er
O this is against me. Hehe..
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#35
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Re: need a plan vs a 2+2er
I think the real question in this hand is the river. I called the turn, another 9 hit the river, and you shoved. I think this is a fairly easy c/f against not just me, but anybody with a brain really. What do you expect to get value from? I dunno, with my hand the turn was exactly a call, but I did put you squarely on JJ without much thought. I/anybody could have soo many boats though on that river, given my line. Like I think it's fair to say I could have every possibly boat combo on that river. A shove gets value from one hand (exactly my hand, like exactly) if the villain is dumb (but I ain't dumb yo).
<font color="white">I had 76cc if you haven't guessed already.</font> |
#36
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Re: need a plan vs a 2+2er
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[ QUOTE ] bet $50. [/ QUOTE ] We shouldn't give him like 4:1 direct, 9:1 implied on this board. At least 80 imo. I realise you're trying to induce but I don't like it on this board and I don't think it will work often enough. [/ QUOTE ] * Best hand of the week. Well I'm trying to maximize value against Villain's entire range (which includes inducing bluffs), but I didn't actually play with any numbers, I was just thinking off the top of my head. POT SIZE = $131 EFFECTIVE STACKS = $183 VILLAIN'S RANGE: This is obviously the hardest part and I actually hardly play, so you're guess of Villain's range is much better than mine. I wish I knew if Villain ever 4-bets preflop...but whatever. AA= 6 ways KK= 4 ways (cause he 4-bets it some preflop?) QQ= 3 ways JJ= 1 ways TT= 3 ways 99= 2 ways (cause he folds preflop and checks flop?) AcKc= 1 way AK (no club) = 10(cause he 4-bets it some preflop?) Now the question of how each acts to a bet? VILLAINS ACTION AA= Bet of $50: Folds 100%, Bluffs 0% (ever bluff?) Bet of $80: Folds 100%, Bluffs 0% KK Bet of $50: Folds 95%, Bluffs 5% (bluff too high?) Bet of $50: Folds 100%, Bluffs 0% Bet of $50: Folds 0%, Raises 50% Calls 50% (?) Bet of $80: Folds 0%, Raises 0%, Calls 100% (?) JJ Bet of $50: Folds 0%, Raises 90%, Calls 10% Bet of $90: Folds 0%, Raises 100% TT Bet of $50: Folds 00%, Raises 25%, Calls 75% (?) Bet of $80: Folds 10%, Raises 25%, Calls 65% (?) 99 Bet of $50: Folds 0%, Raises 25%, Calls 75% (?) Bet of $80: Folds 20%, Raises 20%, Calls 60% (?) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Bet of $50: Folds 0%, Raises 10%, Calls 90% (?) Bet of $80: Folds 100% (?) AxKx Bet of $50: Folds 95%, Raises 5% (?) Bet of $80: Folds 100% Feel free to change any of my numbers, with what you want in bold and I'll do an EV calc. |
#37
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Re: need a plan vs a 2+2er
Doesn't check-calling on the flop just scream JJ ??? A reraise preflop followed by being scared by an overcard on the flop?
I like Nick Royale's analysis - If we bet the flop we disguise our hand as well as getting some FE. Now, let's say the turn blanks and you bet flop and were called. What's your action ? |
#38
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Re: need a plan vs a 2+2er
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I think the real question in this hand is the river. I called the turn, another 9 hit the river, and you shoved. I think this is a fairly easy c/f against not just me, but anybody with a brain really. What do you expect to get value from? [/ QUOTE ]So why did you call then? |
#39
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Re: need a plan vs a 2+2er
Um I didn't...
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#40
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Re: need a plan vs a 2+2er
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[ QUOTE ] bet $50. [/ QUOTE ] We shouldn't give him like 4:1 direct, 9:1 implied on this board. At least 80 imo. I realise you're trying to induce but I don't like it on this board and I don't think it will work often enough. [/ QUOTE ] forgot to add, why would we ever pay the villain off on the river when he obviously boats up? i think hero can safely check-fold to a river push when the board pairs, right? |
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