Poker After Dark thread (week of 11/12 - Show Open)

[Hendricks433]

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Hellmuth: "Howard probably has more experience playing Heads-Up NLHE"


[/ QUOTE ] I laughed. Hes totally serious too.

[markksman]

Let me throw this out there... because clearly Phil Helmuth has accomplished some things in his poker career. So it seems virtually impossible he is as bad as he seems to be playing on TV events lately.

Any chance he is putting on this ridiculous act on TV in hopes of not showing up how he plays in situations where he is not likely to be on tv? IE is he playing possum and trying to throw people off from reading him on tv.

I know it is far-fetched, but sometimes I watch Phil play, and it is ridiculous. Like there is no rhyme or reason as to what he is doing. I don't want to give him too much credit, but seriously he plays poorly so often on tv it seems impossible to be how he is playing all the time.

[oldmangrimis]

IMO Helmuth is a great player in live MMT with avg to good player. On this PAD tournament is not his game. It;s a SNG winner take all with good to great player. but in this last show he play a good game. ya he talk alot but that part of the game. and his 88 where in a good spot it would have be interesting to see what had happen if that had held up.

[djsnit]

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IMO Helmuth is a great player in live MMT with avg to good player. On this PAD tournament is not his game. It;s a SNG winner take all with good to great player. but in this last show he play a good game. ya he talk alot but that part of the game. and his 88 where in a good spot it would have be interesting to see what had happen if that had held up.

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grimis, u donkey [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img])

[KiwiMark]

I think Phil plays OK and can win when things go his way, but his rants are pure drivel.

Like on the hand where Chris Ferguson raised with JJ to $2400 and Phil re-raised to $6K, Chris pushed all in and Hellmuth had to fold. Hellmuth was right in thinking that because it folded to Chris in the button he may have bet out with a weak hand, but when Chris pushed all in he knew that he was beaten and could not call. I had no problem with the play from either of them. But then Phil starts ranting about how people play too reckless and blah blah blah . . .
The fact is that Phil made a play in the hopes that Chris had raised from the button with QT and got his hand caught in the cookie jar - Once Chris shoved Phil KNEW that Chris had either a strong ace or a decent pocket pair. Phil was the one making a play with a weak hand and he was going on about other players being too reckless.

[bystander]

I noticed that too , and I now am 100% sure that Hellmuth is delibrately doing this sort of thing. He is trying to throw off everyone - and make them think he is really folding something good. The image he is trying to project: he is a tight very timid player easy to push around.
The problem is the other pros are not going to fall for that kind of stuff but most amateurs would ..
Another thing - it seemed like his objective was to be on TV for all 5 nights and he accomplished that ...
That marketing machine keeps on rolling

[KSOT]

I fail at capturing images but this is the best I could get from the corner of the screen.

Hellmuth doing the 'pull your arm back to stretch and casually put it around the girl you're sitting next to' move to Shana.

[Shandrax]

Wouldn't you do the same?

[Jehaim]

The opposition in live MTTs is so weak, a competent nit like Hellmuth can crush those games.