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#31
03-19-2007, 10:03 PM
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Re: Pooling of human capital for the \'Two Plus Two Portfolio\'
that took ages but i got it all set up in a yahoo portfolio acccount so its easy to keep track of. pumped approx $10K into each stock, not including fees after first hour its already up 0.28%!!!!
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#34
03-20-2007, 12:18 AM
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Re: Pooling of human capital for the \'Two Plus Two Portfolio\'
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that took ages but i got it all set up in a yahoo portfolio acccount so its easy to keep track of. pumped approx $10K into each stock, not including fees after first hour its already up 0.28%!!!! [/ QUOTE ] This is an interesting thing to do and especially to watch, but in order to learn more from the experience, maybe you could consider a few more things: 1. How do you know how much to invest into each stock? A small volatile company represent a much greater risk than a bigger company like GE. Why invest the same amount in each? How about volatility-adjusted position sizing? 2. Have you considered stop-losses and how much of your portfolio are you prepared to risk on each trade before you sell? 3. Why/when/how will you sell? 4. You said 'pumped approx $10k into each stock' so was that all at the same time? What conditions led you into choosing that particular entry? 5. If you have cash reserves, how/when/why will you add to or trim down a winning posistion? Sorry to be a bit serious, but you can learn a lot from paper trading and when I paper trade I try and treat it as if it were real cash. I know you've been learning and laying your mistakes bare on this board. I think this will be a useful exercise if taken seriously enough. Anyway, I'll be watching this thread and I'll drop these stocks into my own system and see how they look. PS - You're a UK investor, right? How are you going to manage the internation diversification side of things?
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#35
03-20-2007, 06:54 AM
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Re: Pooling of human capital for the \'Two Plus Two Portfolio\'
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[ QUOTE ] that took ages but i got it all set up in a yahoo portfolio acccount so its easy to keep track of. pumped approx $10K into each stock, not including fees after first hour its already up 0.28%!!!! [/ QUOTE ] This is an interesting thing to do and especially to watch, but in order to learn more from the experience, maybe you could consider a few more things: 1. How do you know how much to invest into each stock? A small volatile company represent a much greater risk than a bigger company like GE. Why invest the same amount in each? How about volatility-adjusted position sizing? 2. Have you considered stop-losses and how much of your portfolio are you prepared to risk on each trade before you sell? [/ QUOTE ] As a newcomer to devising portfolios, I hope I can learn how to do what you suggest. Either by reading about it or people on here suggesting which to put stop losses on and how to balance the portfolio in respect to risk and volatity, or hopefully through both means. I chose $10K for each stock as it seemed like a realistic amount that some people on here put into each stock. [ QUOTE ] 3. Why/when/how will you sell? [/ QUOTE ] Hopefully through those posters who recommended them, or anyone else, saying when it's time to sell. I'll try to read up on them myself and be able to express my own thoughts based on facts. [ QUOTE ] 4. You said 'pumped approx $10k into each stock' so was that all at the same time? What conditions led you into choosing that particular entry? [/ QUOTE ] I agree something may of changed in a couple of these stocks which means it is no longer a wise investment, but I figured I might as well put them all in the portfolio and see how it goes to begin with. [ QUOTE ] 5. If you have cash reserves, how/when/why will you add to or trim down a winning posistion? [/ QUOTE ] To allow for more suggestions, I will limit the portfolio fund to $300K. I also want to add the GLD etf for anothter 10K and SLV as well, so that leaves another 6 more available buys, either that or we put the remaining $60K into sectors not already invested in to diversify or into the lower volatile companies already in the portfolio. [ QUOTE ] Sorry to be a bit serious, but you can learn a lot from paper trading and when I paper trade I try and treat it as if it were real cash. I know you've been learning and laying your mistakes bare on this board. I think this will be a useful exercise if taken seriously enough. [/ QUOTE ] I am to treat this as seriously as I can, I feel hopefully over the course of the next few months I can have a much better understanding of investing in stocks. [ QUOTE ] Anyway, I'll be watching this thread and I'll drop these stocks into my own system and see how they look. PS - You're a UK investor, right? How are you going to manage the internation diversification side of things? [/ QUOTE ] I would like to have a good degree of international diversification but this will have to come over time as right now I just wanted to get it up and running, but I can assure you I aim to make this as good a portfolio as we can in terms of diversification. Thanks a lot for posing those questions and taking an interest in this John
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#36
03-22-2007, 06:19 PM
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Re: Pooling of human capital for the \'Two Plus Two Portfolio\'
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[ QUOTE ] hire a good financial planner and let a pro pick the stocks. [/ QUOTE ] no thanks. overpaid and cant beat the market [/ QUOTE ] That's interesting. So, I'm assuming that you change your own oil, seed your own lawn, cut your own hair, sew your own clothes, etc.
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#37
03-22-2007, 06:42 PM
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Re: Pooling of human capital for the \'Two Plus Two Portfolio\'
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] hire a good financial planner and let a pro pick the stocks. [/ QUOTE ] no thanks. overpaid and cant beat the market [/ QUOTE ] That's interesting. So, I'm assuming that you change your own oil, seed your own lawn, cut your own hair, sew your own clothes, etc. [/ QUOTE ] Obeyan... you go to specialists when they can do a better job than you can do on your own... in the case of financial planners, whether they can in fact do that, is very situation dependent.
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#38
03-25-2007, 09:34 AM
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Re: Pooling of human capital for the \'Two Plus Two Portfolio\'
a good first week for the portfolio, up 2.89%.
only 3 downs and 19 ups. Downs: POPEZ -8.41% HAL -3.33% BVX.TO -0.52% Top 3 gainers: AUN.V 10.00% AMSC 6.91% WILC 5.72% Also above 5% but not in top three: CX, HERO, UBB. Unfortunately I do not have data for how the indexes performed, after all that is the key comparison. Anyone know how I can find the prices on the opening for last Tuesday? I had now bought GLD and SLV so there is still $60K/6 share purchases which can be made if anyone has any good stocks. Also, if anyone believes we should sell any of the above then that can also be up for discussion. Good luck John
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#40
03-25-2007, 10:58 AM
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Re: Pooling of human capital for the \'Two Plus Two Portfolio\'
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I added to my position when HAL took a dip. You could have gained a few more % points had you done the same. [/ QUOTE ] I've tried checking every day to see how much a stock has moved (with the stocks i used to hold), whether i should buy more, hold, sell etc etc. Instead I want this to be passive investors portfolio. We buy, he hold, then 6-12 months down the line a stock is sold becuase we feel it is will not continue to outperform the market. Simple as that, I'm not looking to keep buying and selling, just find 30 stocks we think will do well and outperform the market, put them into a portfolio, and see how it goes.
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