Yanks offer job to Girardi

[DesertCat]

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Josh Johnson threw 157 innings as a 22 year old in 2006.
Scott Olson threw 180 innings as a 22 year old in 2006.
Ricky Nolasco threw 140 innings as a 23 year old in 2006.


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I understand the critics on him pitching those guys to much, but if thats who he is given in his rotation what is he supposed to do? If Josh Johnson is one of his top 3 pitchers in his rotation and he is trying to win games its hard to kill him for pitching him 157 innings.

If Hughes, Kennedy, and Joba pitch 150-175 innings next year will fellow Yankee fans be angry at Girardi? Because honestly we can't win if those guys don't throw solid innings. I'm not saying throw these guys for 200 innings, but they have to give the team solid innings for the Yanks to compete for a playoff berth.

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Girardi did pitch those kids too much. It wasn't an extreme amount of innings/pitches, it was mostly the fact that each of those kids was subject to 50% more work than their previous seasons. You are right, it's not entirely his fault. The GM should have brought up some cannon fodder from AAA for odd starts, or demanded that he use his 6th starter/swingman more. It's an organisational failure.

Girardi did break organisational rules with Josh Johnson that directly lead to his arm injury.

But I can't imagine that Cashman isn't aware of all these things, and isn't going to impose strict Joba-like rules that will be obeyed (or JG will be gone).

I'm not convinced Joe is a competent manager however. The Marlins were better this year other than the slagged arms. They underperformed their Pythag under Girardi, he liked small ball strategies that wasted too many outs for too few runs. And Girardi's had a few too many incidents that point to his temper. If the rumour that Posada won't return if Girardi is the manager is true, this was a bad hire.

[DesertCat]

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Hank S's comments to the press seem to point to the free pass short of a total disaster for this year. aka be patient we're rebuilding...young players blah blah blah

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Hmm, interesting given that the first guy they offered the job to was only offered a one year deal structured as a "win or else" contract.

[onlinebeginner]

lol at not signing abreu (besides that fact that they already did) the guy is an .obp machince with a good arm in a small yankee stadium RF

[CharlieDontSurf]

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Hank S's comments to the press seem to point to the free pass short of a total disaster for this year. aka be patient we're rebuilding...young players blah blah blah

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Hmm, interesting given that the first guy they offered the job to was only offered a one year deal structured as a "win or else" contract.

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that was designed to make him say no

[Mondogarage]

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Hank S's comments to the press seem to point to the free pass short of a total disaster for this year. aka be patient we're rebuilding...young players blah blah blah

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Hmm, interesting given that the first guy they offered the job to was only offered a one year deal structured as a "win or else" contract.

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that was designed to make him say no

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Funny thing -- when I said the same thing, six people said I ruined that thread. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[onlinebeginner]

mondo garage... u ruin threads because you aren't intelligent knowledgable or logical

[Mondogarage]

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mondo garage... u ruin threads because you aren't intelligent knowledgable or logical

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So what you're saying is, when one person says one thing, it's valid. When someone else says the same thing, it "ruins the thread".

Okay.

And you're the one saying I lack logic. Riiiight.

[Butcho22]

Can someone who know what they're talking about plz explain to me why Girardi is now managing the Yankees?

How many years as a manager does he have?

Seems the consensus is that he's great with pitchers. Ok, cool. Anything else?

[CharlieDontSurf]

He's a former yankee.
He managed the Marlins n did good job.
He's a former catcher.
He's smart.
He knows New York/Media/Etc

[Butcho22]

k thx...didn't know about the yankee roots