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Re: Official Limit-->NL Forum No Content Thread!
Here is an example of how bad us limidonks can suck (or maybe just myself)...
I treated this hand just like a limit blind battle. PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) MP2 ($59.90) MP3 ($176.90) CO ($63) Button ($104.15) SB ($95.90) Hero ($143.75) UTG ($106.85) UTG+1 ($136.30) MP1 ($100) Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, SB calls $3. Flop: ($8) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $12</font>, Hero calls $6. Turn: ($32) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets $14</font>, Hero calls $14. River: ($60) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets $20</font>, Hero calls $20. Final Pot: $100 Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF"> SB has As Ac (one pair, aces). Hero has Kd 8c (one pair, eights). Outcome: SB wins $100. </font> |
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Re: Official Limit-->NL Forum No Content Thread!
Hiya
I was a long time limit player with several hundred thousand hands of FR on Party and Pokerroom up to $5/10 and another several hundred thousand of 6max up to $3/6 (mostly on Absolute). I switched to NL about a year and a half ago and found I had a lot of habits to unlearn. The biggest was calling on the River when likely beat. In Limit you're usually getting 7:1 odds or better, so calling is correct with any piece of the board. In NL, the odds are often closer to 2:1/3:1 and it's almost always correct to fold a marginal hand. I stopped playing around December while I lived in Asia with crappy internet and just started up again. I play a mix of FR and 6max, with some donkaments thrown in. I'll try to help out on posts when I have something to contribute. There are definitely better players around, but my advice usually doesn't suck. |
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Re: Official Limit-->NL Forum No Content Thread!
Jezus, what a beautiful turn card...
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Hero ($448.60) UTG ($588.60) MP ($579.60) Button ($56) SB ($93.85) Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $8</font>, MP calls $8, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $7, Hero calls $6. Flop: ($32) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $20</font>, MP folds, SB folds, Hero calls $20. Turn: ($72) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $40</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $125</font>, UTG calls $85. River: ($322) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $295.6 (All-In)</font>, UTG calls $295.60. Final Pot: $913.20 Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF"> Hero has 7d 7h (full house, sevens full of aces). UTG has Kh Ad (three of a kind, aces). Outcome: Hero wins $913.20. </font> |
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Re: Official Limit-->NL Forum No Content Thread!
I just got some money in stars so I'm finally getting started with NL.
Fired up some .5/1 tables tonight...after 1 hour I have -gotten it in pf with QQ vs. AK and lost -gotten stacked by 44. vs. my AK on an A4x board in pf 3 bet pot (44 called off 1/3 his stack before the flop) -got it in on the turn with a flush, lost to rivered fh Its weird, i feel a very different kind of tilt feeling than I do when I lose some pots in limit... |
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KK - He raised, I reraised and he pushed - Surely he has AA
That is the argument that is usually given for those who want to fold KK pre-flop.
Well, maybe this hand will be a lesson to all the folders. Full Tilt Poker No Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $0.50/$1 8 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: $97.25 UTG+1: $142.35 MP1: $60 MP2: $116.20 CO: $96.50 Button: $68.15 Hero: $21.40 BB: $101.75 Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 raises to $3.5</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $10</font>, BB folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 raises to $34.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero calls all-in $11.4</font>. Uncalled bets: $13.1 returned to MP2. Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($43.8, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $43.8) Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($43.8, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $43.8) River: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($43.8, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $43.8) Results: Final pot: $43.8 Results below: <font color="#ffffff">MP2 showed Kc Ac</font> <font color="#ffffff">Hero showed Kd Kh</font> |
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Re: KK - He raised, I reraised and he pushed - Surely he has AA
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That is the argument that is usually given for those who want to fold KK pre-flop. Well, maybe this hand will be a lesson to all the folders. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, there are surely a lot of people who would consider folding KK with ~20 bb stacks... |
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i got me a boat
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter
MP ($200) CO ($247) Hero ($376) SB ($50.70) BB ($250.25) UTG ($40) Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $8</font>, Hero calls $8, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>. Flop: ($19) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $16</font>, CO calls $16. Turn: ($51) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $42</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $84</font>, Hero calls $42. River: ($219) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $139 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $139. Final Pot: $497 [4d 4c] and lost with a full house, Aces full of Fours |
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Re: i got me a boat
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter MP ($200) CO ($247) Hero ($376) SB ($50.70) BB ($250.25) UTG ($40) Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $8</font>, Hero calls $8, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>. Flop: ($19) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $16</font>, CO calls $16. Turn: ($51) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $42</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $84</font>, Hero calls $42. River: ($219) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $139 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $139. Final Pot: $497 [4d 4c] and lost with a full house, Aces full of Fours [/ QUOTE ] Comments on the turn play please. |
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Re: i got me a boat
hey guys im back from my holiday wich was fantastic, I have to take care of some stuff and after that I will be active on this forum making a start to NL so wish me luck [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
viva la france [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
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Re: i got me a boat
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[ QUOTE ] PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter MP ($200) CO ($247) Hero ($376) SB ($50.70) BB ($250.25) UTG ($40) Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $8</font>, Hero calls $8, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>. Flop: ($19) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $16</font>, CO calls $16. Turn: ($51) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $42</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $84</font>, Hero calls $42. River: ($219) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $139 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $139. Final Pot: $497 [4d 4c] and lost with a full house, Aces full of Fours [/ QUOTE ] Comments on the turn play please. [/ QUOTE ] good bet. |
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