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Old 11-21-2006, 06:15 PM
novel20 novel20 is offline
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Default Re: Has FTP changed the dealing?

Within 24 hours, AA vs KK 3 times, all in preflop and lost all 3 times. Lost $200, $350 and $120. Also lost to AA vs 99 all in preflop and lost another $150. Also lost with KKK against 89TJ all in on turn and lost another $200.

Over $1000 bad beats and this is only at NL200. From a day which I should up a lot to a big down day (well, it is big for me.)

What would you do? It made me doubt if online poker is rigged?

Is KK the new best starting hand preflop?
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Old 11-21-2006, 06:22 PM
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Default Re: Has FTP changed the dealing?

I won an online tourney with 1400 players where I hit every hand in the world.

I go all-in to try to take it down against some shorter stacks.
I have QQ and board is something like 58T.

All 3 opponents call me so we have a 4-way all-in.
They turn over AA, TT and 88 or something.
Turn and river are 9J so I hit my runner-runner for the straight and get a triple-knockout.


I know this probably wasn't the exact way the hand went...but it was close (triple-knockout with QQ catching runner-runner).

Weird stuff happens.

Those who are alwaus complaining about their bad-beats and thinking it must be because the site is rigged against them somehow never fail to amaze me.
I truly find it fascinating.
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Old 11-21-2006, 07:07 PM
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Default Re: Has FTP changed the dealing?

out of curiosity, does anyone know what the odds of AA losing to AA are?
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Old 11-21-2006, 07:12 PM
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Default Re: Has FTP changed the dealing?

<5% in real odds.

>5% in full tilt odds.
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Old 11-21-2006, 07:47 PM
UATrewqaz UATrewqaz is offline
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Default Re: Has FTP changed the dealing?

This is basically asking "What are the odds the board comes 4 or 5 to the flush"
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Old 11-21-2006, 08:16 PM
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Default Re: Has FTP changed the dealing?

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out of curiosity, does anyone know what the odds of AA losing to AA are?

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It has happend to me, and no i don't think the sites are rigged [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Result
http://twodimes.net/h/?z=62971
pokenum -h ah as - ad ac
Holdem Hi: 1712304 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As Ah 37210 2.17 37210 2.17 1637884 95.65 0.500
Ac Ad 37210 2.17 37210 2.17 1637884 95.65 0.500
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Old 11-21-2006, 08:48 PM
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Default Re: Has FTP changed the dealing?

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out of curiosity, does anyone know what the odds of AA losing to AA are?

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It has happend to me, and no i don't think the sites are rigged [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Result
http://twodimes.net/h/?z=62971
pokenum -h ah as - ad ac
Holdem Hi: 1712304 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As Ah 37210 2.17 37210 2.17 1637884 95.65 0.500
Ac Ad 37210 2.17 37210 2.17 1637884 95.65 0.500

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yeah, but you also have to multiply .0435 by the odds of two people getting AA at a table on the same hand. it must be extremely slim, and it happened to me at absolute at a 6-max table (surprise surprise)
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Old 11-21-2006, 11:55 PM
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Default Re: Has FTP changed the dealing?

i played free poker at a bar one time and my KK went up against the other KK at the final table, rigged? i dont know.
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Old 11-22-2006, 12:53 AM
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i played free poker at a bar one time and my KK went up against the other KK at the final table, rigged? i dont know.

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did you lose?
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Old 11-22-2006, 03:32 AM
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Default Re: Has FTP changed the dealing?

This is a answer we will never know completely and anybody who thinks they know 100 percent either way is foooling themselves. The question I have is not weather a site would juice action for more rake, its weather its done to create more excitement in games...
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