5/106max. KK facing turn push.

[KaneKungFu123]

FV only raised $85. That is a very small amount to cold call with AQ.

I think he could easily be on a flush draw, or a number of other holdings. Hell, he could even be value betting AQ.

[BobboFitos]

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he has no info on the guy. how can he fold here?

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"seems pretty tight". I dunno maybe I am overestimating party donks but I really cant see what hands sane Villain can have here... Bluffing his stack into preflop reraiser is really strange. This line looks like AA/KK to me.
Hmm do you think calling is standard play ?
I found huge leak of mine some time ago (too much folds in small pots on the river) now I wonder maybe I am folding too much in big pots too...

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Or maybe you're just in that perfect zen state, and you neither fold nor call too much. Just you are in it; if you look too much to your left, you will see the callers anonymous, and too much to your right, folders marathons. But you are in the middle; limbo. It could be perhaps a paradise: The Elysian fields. But no one else knows of such a place, as said, they are either too far to the right or to the left.

I, alas, am in callers anonymous, doomed in tartarus, whipped for eternity. The water is just set a little too low and the fruit a little too high; c'est la vie, as the french say. (But the Americans really say that, in emulation of the french)

I would look over, see you, stuck in the middle, and think, "Well, Punter is in limbo! The man has no allegiance! No strong opinion! He's neither a caller nor a folder! What will become of him!?" And truthfully, only you woul dknow the correct answer.

[yvesaint]

bobbos,

you drunk?

regards,
yvesaint

[durron597]

I don't see how you can fold button vs. bb [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[fsuplayer]

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he has no info on the guy. how can he fold here?

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"seems pretty tight". I dunno maybe I am overestimating party donks but I really cant see what hands sane Villain can have here... Bluffing his stack into preflop reraiser is really strange. This line looks like AA/KK to me.
Hmm do you think calling is standard play ?
I found huge leak of mine some time ago (too much folds in small pots on the river) now I wonder maybe I am folding too much in big pots too...

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Or maybe you're just in that perfect zen state, and you neither fold nor call too much. Just you are in it; if you look too much to your left, you will see the callers anonymous, and too much to your right, folders marathons. But you are in the middle; limbo. It could be perhaps a paradise: The Elysian fields. But no one else knows of such a place, as said, they are either too far to the right or to the left.

I, alas, am in callers anonymous, doomed in tartarus, whipped for eternity. The water is just set a little too low and the fruit a little too high; c'est la vie, as the french say. (But the Americans really say that, in emulation of the french)

I would look over, see you, stuck in the middle, and think, "Well, Punter is in limbo! The man has no allegiance! No strong opinion! He's neither a caller nor a folder! What will become of him!?" And truthfully, only you woul dknow the correct answer.

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and im known as the pot smoker??

[turnipmonster]

this is great, I want lessons.

[ObnxNole]

call

[JasonP530]

I think its a call, because of the hand ranges you are ahead of. If villian is good, I would think he would be capable of pushing an 8 or a set there(knowing you are primed to call or have air), but I wouldn't be ready to give him credit for being good. How come you checked the turn? Were you going to checkraise allin? Any bet commits you and there are a number of scary cards, but I'm sure you knew that...

Jason

[creedofhubris]

Were you checking the turn in order to check/raise allin?

I can't fold here.

[KRANTZ]

In response to the betting 420 vs. pushing, pushing is better because you can't get check-raised all-in. I honestly think it's irrelevant though; if you're betting 420 you had also better be calling an all-in, so why not push all the chips in anyway and put the added pressure on him to fold the best hand?

The only argument I see for betting less is that if you bet 420 with a draw you may only get called and can see the river and fold when you don't hit. But this whole scenario is player dependent; if he's passive, 420 would probably be better than open-pushing, but it's very close.