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Old 08-30-2007, 05:05 PM
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"Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do."

-- Rudy

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I agree.
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Old 08-30-2007, 05:07 PM
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One thing I have learned, is that privacy is no longer an issue for the democrats, you have more liberals nowadays that dont care about what is being done to our privacy than ever. Both sides are way to apathetic about the issue imo, and it seems every time we have a discussion on "big brother" type issues, even the most hardcore libs on 2p2 come out in defense w/ the tired old argument "if Im not doing anything wrong, I dont see the problem"

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I'm a liberal and do not believe that. Bush is a conservative and initiated the patriot act.

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Please stop blaming Bush for this bipartisan legislation.
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Old 08-30-2007, 05:27 PM
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"Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do."

-- Rudy

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I agree.

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The only good cop is a dead cop
Police brutality
Must come to a stop
Dem kill latinos
Dem kill more black
Luima in brooklyn,
Diallo in the bronx
We spark rebellion,
Watch them get rocked
Self-defense is not a violent act
Police murder
Budget get cut back
Guilliani send his troops to attack
They soon retreat
Watch them run back
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Old 08-30-2007, 05:36 PM
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"Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do."

-- Rudy

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I agree.

[/ QUOTE ]most wouldn't. Its a different perspective for you because you're a cop.
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Old 08-30-2007, 05:40 PM
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Ron, this one is better:
http://www.lyricsdepot.com/screwball/who-shot-rudy.html
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Old 08-30-2007, 06:36 PM
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Default Re: Rudy G\'s Tough Talk

SNL is gonna love it if rudy + hillary gets the nom
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Old 08-30-2007, 07:32 PM
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"Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do."

-- Rudy

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I agree.

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It's times like these I wish Bill Hicks was still alive.
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Old 08-30-2007, 08:31 PM
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"Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do."

-- Rudy

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I agree.

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The only good cop is a dead cop
Police brutality
Must come to a stop
Dem kill latinos
Dem kill more black
Luima in brooklyn,
Diallo in the bronx
We spark rebellion,
Watch them get rocked
Self-defense is not a violent act
Police murder
Budget get cut back
Guilliani send his troops to attack
They soon retreat
Watch them run back

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No law = chaos. You have to give up some freedom to have security. I'm not saying I agree with the policies that Rudy may have to have secure borders or insure security through America, but I agree with his statement through my own interpretation.

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It's times like these I wish Bill Hicks was still alive.

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I don't understand this comment.
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Old 08-30-2007, 08:36 PM
Archon_Wing Archon_Wing is offline
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The main knock on Guiliani I've heard from most conservatives is that he's extremely authoritarian and big-government. He supports the national ID cards. His belief in the 2nd amendment is questionable. From what he says in the debates, I get the impression he thinks people should give up all their rights and privacy in order to let the govt protect them from terrorists.

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"Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority (in other words, me) a great deal of discretion about what you do."

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Old 08-30-2007, 09:06 PM
John Kilduff John Kilduff is offline
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"Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do." - Rudy Giuliani

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No law = chaos. You have to give up some freedom to have security. I'm not saying I agree with the policies that Rudy may have to have secure borders or insure security through America, but I agree with his statement through my own interpretation.

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I don't disagree with you on "some" but I do strongly disagree with Rudy on "a great deal of".

Also, you're talking about security whereas Giuliani is talking about freedom.
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