Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)

[Clever Nickname]

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this is all crap. if a 5 poster put this up thread would be locked and he'd be banned. its a mod so people respect it.

stand back people. seriously. this is a joke. no way any site would risk this much money by rigging anything.

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It doesn't have to be the site itself trying to rig the game. It's entirely conceivable that AP created accounts that can see other players' hole cards purely for software testing purposes, never intending for them to be used by an actual player. It's also entirely conceivable that someone managed to get control of one of these accounts and is now using it to cheat, whether it be an inside job by an employee or a hacker gaining access from outside. Either of these could have happened without AP having any knowledge.

[holdem2000]

Would he have reason to believe you flat call a 3bet, making his bet a block for a "cheap" flop? Or slight chance he doesn't always use his software, didn't see your hand just reacted to Grinder's, etc. Thanks for bringing this HH to the discussion.

[nath]

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this is all crap. if a 5 poster put this up thread would be locked and he'd be banned. its a mod so people respect it.

stand back people. seriously. this is a joke. no way any site would risk this much money by rigging anything.

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Did you actually read the thread?

Or is going from forum to forum and being contrarian, like, your shtick on the internet?

[Trogdor!]

A++++++++

will read again

Ive never played AP before but this is all too awesome and i am making an account and depositing there right now

seriously through has anyone ruled out hidden spy cameras in peoples homes recording a live feed of villians computer screen???

Now that is awesome x10

AP = Awesome Poker

[Trogdor!]

*cue ikestoys paranoid and franetic search through house

[hoppscot22]

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I have to play Devil's Advocate here...why would DoubleDrag 3bet here?

STAGE #753356407: HOLDEM NO LIMIT $30 - 2007-09-04 17:21:03 (ET)
Table: ALHAMBRA (Real Money) Seat #5 is the dealer
Seat 5 - DOUBLEDRAG ($19435 in chips)
Seat 6 - PRIMOGENITOX ($3041 in chips)
Seat 3 - PTOWNER ($8196 in chips)
Seat 4 - THE GRINDER ($7396 in chips)
PRIMOGENITOX - Posts small blind $15
PTOWNER - Posts big blind $30
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to PRIMOGENITOX [Qd Qh]
THE GRINDER - Raises $120 to $120
DOUBLEDRAG - Raises $270 to $270
PRIMOGENITOX - Raises $985 to $1000
PTOWNER - Folds
THE GRINDER - Folds
DOUBLEDRAG - Folds
PRIMOGENITOX - returned ($730) : not called
*** SHOW DOWN ***
PRIMOGENITOX - Does not show
PRIMOGENITOX Collects $690 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($690)
Seat 3: PTOWNER (big blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: THE GRINDER Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 5: DOUBLEDRAG (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 6: PRIMOGENITOX (small blind) collected Total ($690)

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this is actually an interesting point

[PrimogenitoX]

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I have to play Devil's Advocate here...why would DoubleDrag 3bet here?

STAGE #753356407: HOLDEM NO LIMIT $30 - 2007-09-04 17:21:03 (ET)
Table: ALHAMBRA (Real Money) Seat #5 is the dealer
Seat 5 - DOUBLEDRAG ($19435 in chips)
Seat 6 - PRIMOGENITOX ($3041 in chips)
Seat 3 - PTOWNER ($8196 in chips)
Seat 4 - THE GRINDER ($7396 in chips)
PRIMOGENITOX - Posts small blind $15
PTOWNER - Posts big blind $30
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to PRIMOGENITOX [Qd Qh]
THE GRINDER - Raises $120 to $120
DOUBLEDRAG - Raises $270 to $270
PRIMOGENITOX - Raises $985 to $1000
PTOWNER - Folds
THE GRINDER - Folds
DOUBLEDRAG - Folds
PRIMOGENITOX - returned ($730) : not called
*** SHOW DOWN ***
PRIMOGENITOX - Does not show
PRIMOGENITOX Collects $690 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($690)
Seat 3: PTOWNER (big blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: THE GRINDER Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 5: DOUBLEDRAG (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 6: PRIMOGENITOX (small blind) collected Total ($690)

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this is actually an interesting point

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I mean...DoubleDrag having compromised certain regulars accounts with a trojan is much much more likely than Godmode SuperUser accounts....I guess I am safe..

[Black winter day]

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I have to play Devil's Advocate here...why would DoubleDrag 3bet here?

STAGE #753356407: HOLDEM NO LIMIT $30 - 2007-09-04 17:21:03 (ET)
Table: ALHAMBRA (Real Money) Seat #5 is the dealer
Seat 5 - DOUBLEDRAG ($19435 in chips)
Seat 6 - PRIMOGENITOX ($3041 in chips)
Seat 3 - PTOWNER ($8196 in chips)
Seat 4 - THE GRINDER ($7396 in chips)
PRIMOGENITOX - Posts small blind $15
PTOWNER - Posts big blind $30
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to PRIMOGENITOX [Qd Qh]
THE GRINDER - Raises $120 to $120
DOUBLEDRAG - Raises $270 to $270
PRIMOGENITOX - Raises $985 to $1000
PTOWNER - Folds
THE GRINDER - Folds
DOUBLEDRAG - Folds
PRIMOGENITOX - returned ($730) : not called
*** SHOW DOWN ***
PRIMOGENITOX - Does not show
PRIMOGENITOX Collects $690 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($690)
Seat 3: PTOWNER (big blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: THE GRINDER Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 5: DOUBLEDRAG (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 6: PRIMOGENITOX (small blind) collected Total ($690)

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this is actually an interesting point

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He had KK or AA and thought you aren't gonna fold?

[ITILTEZ]

About the hand, lot of people wouldnt 4bet QQ there. Also id imagine, without knowing anything about this stuff, that it would really hard to get trojan on every top regulars computer.
There is still the small chance that these guys are just super lucky fishes..

Funny anecdote: While ago some AP representative posted to Zoo that they were looking for collage students to train/work with them. Some guy asked in that thread how absolute could stay in business when they offer all these bonuses. The representatives response was something like "Come here( Costa Rica) and we will show you [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]"

[GreenSmoke85]

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dunno if it's been said yet. But could this somehow be turned into a good reason why the US should be regulating the online gambling industry?

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Yes good idea, the US government nothing shady about that organization.