60k "Staking" dispute

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Why would Boosted not feel bad for the 30k loan if it weren't converted to a stake?

Being staked $30k would just make him feel off the hook for taking a no interest loan that looked like it might take longer than expected to pay back?

Problem with the IM convo, as often happens on IM, is one person says something while the other is typing and hitting return between thoughts and they don't really pay attention. The comments about 100% certainty and "what's in it for you" weren't really considered.

I'm not saying I'm sure that he wasn't Boosted though. I didn't see any explanation about the disagreement between when the deposits were made.

Not that I care, but doesn't 2p2 have a policy about when threads start going into paying to have someone beaten up?

Also, there aren't neighborhoods that white people don't frequent. I worked in all the poorest neighborhoods of LA for years, including in housing projects, and never had a problem and wasn't some kind of tough guy.

[Roman]

boosted if ur word is gold as u say, u will make this guy back every penny he lent u before u play on ur own.

[Roman]

(assuming he is willing to stake u for 5/10 or whatever)

[RaiseAndPray]

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Yes, that arrangement is now finished, from my perspective. After it was agreed upon, OP offered a separate arrangement to Boosted without consulting me. When you make an agreement with two parties, you don't try to go behind one's back and seek other terms with the third party. He's also said that he'd rather someone else pick up the stake, and a number of you have said that there's something shady/inappropriate about me taking the stake.

So you win; I'm quite through being a part of this. If anyone else should care to pick up the stake, they can take the matter up with Boosted and Filth independently. My intentions were to resolve this issue in a manner mutually acceptable to Boosted and Filth. I have no interest in having my reputation tarnished by insinuations that I've attempted in some way to take advantage of Filth by taking part in the stake. Certain posters who have conducted themselves like rabid animals for the enitrety of this thread (e.g. bkholdem) will likely contrive some way in which this also must "prove" Boosted (and, by extension, I) guilty of some wrongdoing. My hope and expectation is that such accusations will be lent precisely as much credence as they deserve: none.

With respect to the rest of the thread, I find the points I made yesterday to have been wholly unrefuted. The sheer volume of posts (most of which repeat each other almost word-for-word) on this thread is ghastly, and accordingly I'm quite certain I haven't the time to sift through it (let alone respond to salient points made therein), given that it continues to grow at anything approximating the present rate.

A multitude of people in this thread have, for reasons passing understanding, infantilized OP to the point where, beyond the occasional "OMG how didn't you clear things up more?", they ascibe him virtually NO responsibility in failing to clarify the terms of the arrangement. For those of you who are vehemently anti-Boosted, let's set up a little hypothetical.

Suppose for a minute that things had gone the other way and Boosted had won $200,000. Thereafter, he paid OP back $60,000 and kept the profits. Outraged, OP came to the HSNL forum and posted a thread with the conversation referenced a billion times on this thread. Would it not be crystal-clear to you that Boosted owed OP half the profits, from the contents of that conversation? Assuming that this would be clear (which undoubtedly it should be), how, as a matter of logic, can it be treated as a stake given a win and as a loan given a loss? This serves to illustrate how grossly unfair a number of people on this thread have been to Boosted, and honestly it's sad on a lot of levels.

All of that being said, I'll likely bow out of this thread before too long, as reasoning with people who have made up their minds and expressed themselves in such vehement fashion is largely unproductive. A fanatic is someone who can't change his mind and won't change the subject; many on this thread fit the description to a tee.

-Neutrality

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I've read this thread in its entirety as this progresses (quite fascinating in a pathetic way), and the above is BY FAR the most intelligent and accurate statement made.

[jsnipes28]

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Yes, that arrangement is now finished, from my perspective. After it was agreed upon, OP offered a separate arrangement to Boosted without consulting me. When you make an agreement with two parties, you don't try to go behind one's back and seek other terms with the third party. He's also said that he'd rather someone else pick up the stake, and a number of you have said that there's something shady/inappropriate about me taking the stake.

So you win; I'm quite through being a part of this. If anyone else should care to pick up the stake, they can take the matter up with Boosted and Filth independently. My intentions were to resolve this issue in a manner mutually acceptable to Boosted and Filth. I have no interest in having my reputation tarnished by insinuations that I've attempted in some way to take advantage of Filth by taking part in the stake. Certain posters who have conducted themselves like rabid animals for the enitrety of this thread (e.g. bkholdem) will likely contrive some way in which this also must "prove" Boosted (and, by extension, I) guilty of some wrongdoing. My hope and expectation is that such accusations will be lent precisely as much credence as they deserve: none.

With respect to the rest of the thread, I find the points I made yesterday to have been wholly unrefuted. The sheer volume of posts (most of which repeat each other almost word-for-word) on this thread is ghastly, and accordingly I'm quite certain I haven't the time to sift through it (let alone respond to salient points made therein), given that it continues to grow at anything approximating the present rate.

A multitude of people in this thread have, for reasons passing understanding, infantilized OP to the point where, beyond the occasional "OMG how didn't you clear things up more?", they ascibe him virtually NO responsibility in failing to clarify the terms of the arrangement. For those of you who are vehemently anti-Boosted, let's set up a little hypothetical.

Suppose for a minute that things had gone the other way and Boosted had won $200,000. Thereafter, he paid OP back $60,000 and kept the profits. Outraged, OP came to the HSNL forum and posted a thread with the conversation referenced a billion times on this thread. Would it not be crystal-clear to you that Boosted owed OP half the profits, from the contents of that conversation? Assuming that this would be clear (which undoubtedly it should be), how, as a matter of logic, can it be treated as a stake given a win and as a loan given a loss? This serves to illustrate how grossly unfair a number of people on this thread have been to Boosted, and honestly it's sad on a lot of levels.

All of that being said, I'll likely bow out of this thread before too long, as reasoning with people who have made up their minds and expressed themselves in such vehement fashion is largely unproductive. A fanatic is someone who can't change his mind and won't change the subject; many on this thread fit the description to a tee.

-Neutrality

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I've read this thread in its entirety as this progresses (quite fascinating in a pathetic way), and the above is BY FAR the most intelligent and accurate statement made.

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it's amazing what good diction and grammar can do for an argument.

[eso]

"Suppose for a minute that things had gone the other way and Boosted had won $200,000. Thereafter, he paid OP back $60,000 and kept the profits. Outraged, OP came to the HSNL forum and posted a thread with the conversation referenced a billion times on this thread. Would it not be crystal-clear to you that Boosted owed OP half the profits, from the contents of that conversation? Assuming that this would be clear (which undoubtedly it should be), how, as a matter of logic, can it be treated as a stake given a win and as a loan given a loss? This serves to illustrate how grossly unfair a number of people on this thread have been to Boosted, and honestly it's sad on a lot of levels. "

Then he would owe the 30k loan, and half the 200k profit, so 130k overall. Although its likely boosted would have called the staking deal to an end before he reached such a huge profit.

[stephenNUTS]

After just reading through this very disturbing thread:

It is not only quite clear ,that this was an obvious SCAM,but that "the once almighty BOOSTEDJ" now appears to now be another on-line broken down valise,who has lowered himself to these type's of degenerate scams,incl. his recent fanboy gimmick account "friends defending him.If I am not mistakin HE was one of the HS players that boasted that REAL BALLAS' a few months ago about keeping ALL their monies in their on-line accounts,as they have so much,it doesnt matter anyway
What a joke!
His high-stakes sports betting ALONE(yes guys wake up) will eventually lead him to BUSTOVILLE and I am assuming that "these are the guys looking for him/pissed off" from some of the recent posts

ADVICE:

If you are a WINNING POKER player,stay away from lending-backing LOSING players in CASH games and most of all,stay away from casino pit games,sports betting,etc........as you CANT WIN OVER TIME,and that is how they build thse big casino's my friends

If you dont care........Dont respond!!!!

~stephen

[bkholdem]

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Although its likely boosted would have called the staking deal to an end before he reached such a huge profit.

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Gee, you reallly think so? Why is that?

[James282]

OP, I will buy you out of your stake for 3k.

James

[Ghazban]

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It is not only quite clear ,that this was an obvious SCAM,but that "the once almighty BOOSTEDJ" now appears to now be another on-line broken down valise...

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Boosted J is a small suitcase? What an odd choice of words....