SSNL [cheese] thread: OCT (nc)

[thac]

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Seems like a concept designed for beginner players. Most of this should be pretty instinctual to a good player.

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Agreed, it's just in new words and new lingo.

[AE6]

how deep do you have to be before this becomes a non-optimal way to play it?
POKERSTARS GAME #12403419203: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2007/10/02 - 20:50:18 (ET)
Table 'Podarkes' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: elTy ($537.05 in chips)
Seat 2: jappaen11 ($441.30 in chips)
Seat 3: MuseBell10 ($239.15 in chips)
Seat 4: knecht_poker ($523.70 in chips)
Seat 5: societymax ($490.55 in chips)
Seat 6: djbignick ($260.05 in chips)
jappaen11: posts small blind $1
MuseBell10: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to societymax [5h 7h]
knecht_poker: raises $6 to $8
societymax: calls $8
djbignick: folds
elTy: folds
jappaen11: folds
MuseBell10: folds
*** FLOP *** [4h 8h 2h]
knecht_poker: bets $14
societymax: raises $36 to $50
knecht_poker: raises $144 to $194
societymax: raises $288.55 to $482.55 and is all-in
knecht_poker: calls $288.55
*** TURN *** [4h 8h 2h] [4c]
*** RIVER *** [4h 8h 2h 4c] [8d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
knecht_poker: shows [Qd Ah] (two pair, Eights and Fours)
societymax: shows [5h 7h] (a flush, Eight high)
societymax collected $981.10 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $984.10 | Rake $3
Board [4h 8h 2h 4c 8d]
Seat 1: elTy (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: jappaen11 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: MuseBell10 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: knecht_poker showed [Qd Ah] and lost with two pair, Eights and Fours
Seat 5: societymax showed [5h 7h] and won ($981.10) with a flush, Eight high
Seat 6: djbignick folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[cs3]

wtf at 200nl?

i crush 100NL with my eyes closed but every time i decide to "permanently" move up i get raped... and i feel like im playing the exact same game. anyone else have ethis problem? here is sept, about a normal month for me lately:








a little bit of that swonginess in the first few hundred hands may have been drunken tiltng, but dammit this happens every month

[Jay Riall]

cs3 - yeah I raped 100NL hard before 200NL, but 200NL was a [censored] bitch to get into - only got in properly on my 3rd attempt and had 2 $2k downswings in my first 2 attempts.

[chiTown22]

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cs3 - yeah I raped 100NL hard before 200NL, but 200NL was a [censored] bitch to get into - only got in properly on my 3rd attempt and had 2 $2k downswings in my first 2 attempts.

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Its always good to hear things like this from established players I respect. I have had some problems at 1/2 as well. I know I have the ability to beat it and in some ways I find it to be easier than .5/1.

I believe the more aggro style at 1/2 tends to tilt me very easily and this aggresion also increases my losses due to tilt. The fact of the matter is that the players at 100NL are a joke and at 1/2 you actually find people who can play.

[ajmargarine]

Standard? PFR is callide.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $98.05
BB: $237.40
UTG: $44.00
MP: $202.00
CO: $139.20
Hero (BTN): $313.15

Preflop: Hero is dealt 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $2.00, <font color="red">MP raises to $10.00</font>, CO folds, Hero calls $10.00, 2 folds, UTG calls $8.00

Flop: ($33) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $10.00</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $35.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $303.15</font>, UTG calls all-in for $24.00, MP folds
Uncalled bet of $268.15 returned to Hero

Turn: ($137) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($137) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $137.00 ($3 Rake)

UTG had K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (two pair, Queens and Sevens) and LOST (-$44.00)
Hero had 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a full house, Nines full of Sevens) and WON (+$89.00)

[goofyballer]

HEY DONK I APPRECIATE THE SKLANSKY BUCKS BUT I'D RATHER JUST HAVE THE $1.2K TO HELP ME OUT THIS DOWNSWING K THX

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $625.00
BB: $838.60
UTG: $400.00
Hero (MP): $583.00
CO: $438.00
BTN: $491.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $14.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $48.00</font>, 3 folds, BB calls $44.00, UTG folds

Flop: ($112) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $48.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $188.00</font>, BB calls $140.00

Turn: ($488) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets all-in for $602.60</font>, Hero calls all-in for $347.00
Uncalled bet of $255.60 returned to BB

River: ($1182) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $1,182.00 ($3 Rake)

BB had T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a flush, Ace high) and WON (+$596.00)
Hero had K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a pair of Aces) and LOST (-$583.00)

[cs3]

honestly, i think most 1/2 players are a joke too. the regs are just a little better but the fish are just as fishy

[Jay Riall]

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honestly, i think most 1/2 players are a joke too. the regs are just a little better but the fish are just as fishy

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Yeah, but there are a lot more TAGfish who are still profitable to play against, but not as much as the 100NL fish and TAGfish.

[chiTown22]

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Standard? PFR is callide.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $98.05
BB: $237.40
UTG: $44.00
MP: $202.00
CO: $139.20
Hero (BTN): $313.15

Preflop: Hero is dealt 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $2.00, <font color="red">MP raises to $10.00</font>, CO folds, Hero calls $10.00, 2 folds, UTG calls $8.00

Flop: ($33) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $10.00</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $35.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $303.15</font>, UTG calls all-in for $24.00, MP folds
Uncalled bet of $268.15 returned to Hero

Turn: ($137) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($137) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $137.00 ($3 Rake)

UTG had K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (two pair, Queens and Sevens) and LOST (-$44.00)
Hero had 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a full house, Nines full of Sevens) and WON (+$89.00)

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That is a really big over shove on the flop. I think you leave value on the table with a bet that large? What calls you here?