PS: 10 Billionth Hand Promo Details

[Borgland]

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The system will simply skip to hand 9931000001, 2, 3, ect.. or whatever if it lands on a playmoney/tournament table I think.

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Yes, I meant from winning money not from being counted. Sorry

[NU Star]

Am I the only one who has thought of this:

$1 PLO flips between 9 supernovas.
Everyone Raises to $1 then checks down.
Everyone gets 7 fpps because the required $.40 was generated.
Everyone makes about $.11 per hand in FPPs gross minus $.05 rake, for $.06 profit.

Ok, so know someone program the bots we need to exploit this.

[Ron Burgundy]

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Am I the only one who has thought of this:

$1 PLO flips between 9 supernovas.
Everyone Raises to $1 then checks down.
Everyone gets 7 fpps because the required $.40 was generated.
Everyone makes about $.11 per hand in FPPs gross minus $.05 rake, for $.06 profit.

Ok, so know someone program the bots we need to exploit this.

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How would that not be considered collusion, and thus, clearly against the T&C of the site?

[jgunnip]

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WOW

PokerStars Game #9934000000: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/05/15 - 21:48:14 (ET)
Table 'Beryl II' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: laser16 ($50.20 in chips)
Seat 3: StarRainy ($29.75 in chips)
laser16: posts small blind $0.25
StarRainy: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
greenglow2 joins the table at seat #6
laser16 said, "."
laser16 said, "i cant act"
greenglow2 leaves the table
Bagonirix joins the table at seat #6
StarRainy said, "hgahaha"
ethidium1 is disconnected
Bagonirix said, "where's the hand"
Dr.swseo leaves the table
laser16: folds
laser16 leaves the table
StarRainy collected $0.50 from pot
StarRainy: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.50 | Rake $0
Seat 2: laser16 (button) (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: StarRainy (big blind) collected ($0.50)

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wtf? I'm pretty sure laser has posted on 2p2 in the post. beat.

[NU Star]

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Am I the only one who has thought of this:

$1 PLO flips between 9 supernovas.
Everyone Raises to $1 then checks down.
Everyone gets 7 fpps because the required $.40 was generated.
Everyone makes about $.11 per hand in FPPs gross minus $.05 rake, for $.06 profit.

Ok, so know someone program the bots we need to exploit this.

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How would that not be considered collusion, and thus, clearly against the T&C of the site?

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So flips aren't allowed?

[MicroBob]

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Am I the only one who has thought of this:

$1 PLO flips between 9 supernovas.
Everyone Raises to $1 then checks down.
Everyone gets 7 fpps because the required $.40 was generated.
Everyone makes about $.11 per hand in FPPs gross minus $.05 rake, for $.06 profit.

Ok, so know someone program the bots we need to exploit this.

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Yes, I made this observation before.
If a bunch of SN's got together on a 1/2 limit or NL table and set it up tht they got exactly $0.40 rake on each hand they could get over 100% rakeback even without the double-FPP's.

On a .5/1 NL table with 9 players and each player betting $1 you would have a pot-size of $8.55 with a rake of $0.45 I believe.

Each player contribues 5 cents of rake.
Each player received 3.5 FPP's which equals roughly 5.6 cents which is 112% rakeback.

At 7 FPP's during the double-points promo this is 11.2 cents which is 224% rakeback.

If 9 SN's could get in 70 hds an hour doing this they could net roughly $4.20/hr in FPP's AFTER factoring in all the rake they paid.
Doesn't get much more exciting than that.

Of course, Stars would probably frown on this and put a stop to it sooner or later.
Not encouraging anyone to actually set up a table to do this as I believe it is significantly different than some of the auto-fold tables many 2+2'er and non-2+2'er types set up to try to hit milestone hands in the past.

But it does illustrate the power of the FPP's vs. RB at some of the lower stakes.

The main drawback to FPP's on the lower stakes is the lack of partial-points for hands under $0.40 in rake.
On FT or other sites you are making back a penny or two for such hands. On Stars you get nothing.

Also, getting the same amount of points for a hand that has $0.40 rake as one that has $1.90 rake or something makes it a little more inconsistent than straight RB at a site like FT.
But overall, all those $0.40 and $1.90 type hands will even out in the end and your earn-rate will be pretty consistent per table.

[jgunnip]

lol did anybody else see the hand at the .01/.02 NL table? It was at table Thalus or something like that but a lot of railbirds went to table Thalus V and started railing lol and got three people to go all in. Then there was a wtf moment and I realized it was at a different table. Still three of the donks folded at a max table.

[Assani Fisher]

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If anyone is interested in a team for the 10 billionth hand, please count me in. We can sit in 12 high stake tables and rapidly fold. No one is going to lose anything and we have at least 3 times opportunity to be dealt in
100K is worth the effort [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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So earlier in this thread I called you guys "shady" for doing this. Well I'm gonna be a big hypocrite and say that I'm in for this. Oh and I don't think stakes matter at all, so we can just sit at $.01/$.02. Are you guys suggesting doing this at like 12 different tables or just focusing all our energy on one? Moreover should we have an agreement to split the grand prize or just let the winner take it all?

[Reef]

wait.. play money tables are eligible?

if so, wtf stars r u dumb?

[Ron Burgundy]

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wait.. play money tables are eligible?

if so, wtf stars r u dumb?

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Have you read this thread? Or the other thread about this promo? Or the details of the promo on the Stars website? wtf r u dumb?