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check/call 1 8.33%
bet/call 5 41.67%
bet/3b 5 41.67%
check/raise 1 8.33%
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Old 08-14-2007, 08:34 PM
Josem Josem is offline
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Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $2, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $2, SB completes, BB checks.

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fold or raise preflop... i (almost) never limp in.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $6</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $6, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $4.

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fold pf... rest of the hand looks fine, i guess.

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Flop: ($46) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $32</font>, Hero calls $32.

Turn: ($110) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $74</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $242</font>, Hero calls $80.15 (All-In).

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i don't like the turn.

you have claimed the aggression in the hand with a bizarrely irrelevant 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] I don't get what you're expecting to happen here.


other two hands look fine... although i'm not convinced that raising more (and building a bigger pot) with the 88 hand when you're OOP is a good move... i'd much rather make a bigger re-raise with the AK (where you're in position, are hugely ahead of villain's range) than with the 88 (where you're going to be out of position, and marginally ahead of villain's range)
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Old 08-14-2007, 09:00 PM
MadScientist MadScientist is offline
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Check raise flop a little harder in hand 2. It was bad luck, but take solace in the fact that you had a big equity edge on the flop and all the money is likely going in by the river.
Like if he hadn't boated up (I'm assuming), would he have folded a set getting 3:1, I don't think so. This is why you want to bet a bit more as he could have pair plus the ace of hearts or a set or a lower flush and you want to tie them onto the hand.
With the nut flush, I play it a bit weaker.

On the QJ hand, your outs are tainted, fold. Also fold pf oop with a suited connector facing a strong three bet.

I think the AK hand is good, though I would raise more pf.

I think the 88 hand is just fine as long as you don't automatically rr 88 every time.
Once you hit open ended plus pair you've got to go with it facing those pot odds.
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Old 08-14-2007, 09:17 PM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

what are the odds on the turn. i counted 1.8-1 but i suck horribly at math
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Old 08-15-2007, 03:01 AM
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Check raise flop a little harder in hand 2. It was bad luck, but take solace in the fact that you had a big equity edge on the flop and all the money is likely going in by the river.
Like if he hadn't boated up (I'm assuming), would he have folded a set getting 3:1, I don't think so. This is why you want to bet a bit more as he could have pair plus the ace of hearts or a set or a lower flush and you want to tie them onto the hand.
With the nut flush, I play it a bit weaker.



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he had the nut flush
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Old 08-15-2007, 04:04 AM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

lacky-

hand 1- raise pf
hand2- fold pf
hand 3- fold to the 3-bet usually, shove the flop when you call. c/f turn as played
hand 4- more preflop, fine otherwise
hand 5- faltcall pf
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Old 08-15-2007, 11:48 AM
K䲰䮥n K䲰䮥n is offline
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Hello.

On this table I've raised 7/9 times PF (all good hands, none went to showdown). This is the first 3bet on this table that I witness. Deep stakced villain is a 28/23/8 regular and the shorty's a 72/37/whatever (#1 on my buddy list). Good? Bad?

Seat 1: Firetribe ( $57.05 )
Seat 3: WWelho ( $110.85 )
Seat 5: 24paul ( $9.76 )
Seat 6: DANIELLExx ( $59.55 )
Seat 8: MadAgent ( $81.85 )
Seat 10: thezerox ( $21.49 )
MadAgent posts Small Blind $0.25
thezerox posts Big Blind $0.50

Dealing cards
Your cards T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [Firetribe]
Firetribe raises $1.75
WWelho raises $6
24paul goes All-in $9.76
DANIELLExx folds
MadAgent folds
thezerox folds
Firetribe raises $49.04 (slider problem)
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Old 08-15-2007, 12:01 PM
futuredoc85 futuredoc85 is offline
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any particular reason you shove?

just call since wwelho cant shove and you are getting called by exactly one hand you beat preflop, and i dobt he's 3-betting your UTG opens that wide if hes a regular (since he will have PT/HUD and be multitabling and not care that you have raised a lot on this one tables.
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Old 08-15-2007, 12:34 PM
K䲰䮥n K䲰䮥n is offline
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any particular reason you shove?

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To make monies? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Seat 1: Firetribe ( $57.05 )
Seat 3: WWelho ( $110.85 )
Seat 5: 24paul ( $9.76 )
Seat 6: DANIELLExx ( $59.55 )
Seat 8: MadAgent ( $81.85 )
Seat 10: thezerox ( $21.49 )
MadAgent posts Small Blind $0.25
thezerox posts Big Blind $0.50
Dealing cards
Your cards Tc Ts [Firetribe]
Firetribe raises $1.75
WWelho raises $6
24paul goes All-in $9.76
DANIELLExx folds
MadAgent folds
thezerox folds
Firetribe raises $49.04
WWelho raises $104.85
Firetribe goes All-in $6.26
Dealing Flop 6s Qd 8s
Dealing Turn 6s Qd 8s Td
Dealing River 6s Qd 8s Td Qh
WWelho shows As Ac
24paul shows 7c 7d
Winner is Firetribe $121.61


I'm trying to create an image for Hero but I wuess I should stick to ABC since people arent paying atenttion at these levels, eh? [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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Old 08-15-2007, 12:43 PM
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even if they are paying attention this is bad. watch less cardrunners vids methinks.
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Old 08-15-2007, 12:45 PM
K䲰䮥n K䲰䮥n is offline
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even if they are paying attention this is bad. watch less cardrunners vids methinks.

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I still need a sensei if Brian Townsend is not the one... (no joke)
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