NL Bots on Full Tilt

[Drignatio]

just got stacked by him


Full Tilt Poker Game #2387674394: Table Apache Hills - $1/$2 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:42:06 ET - 2007/05/09
Seat 1: 0_Drunkenboxer ($398.65)
Seat 2: Dopeey11 ($73.70)
Seat 3: ThoughtyouhadKK ($34)
Seat 4: Rnuss24 ($229.25)
Seat 5: HERO ($256.35)
Seat 6: ddongi ($177.85)
Seat 7: Marlbro420 ($237.35), is sitting out
Seat 8: Rocky of Poker ($280.80)
Rnuss24 posts the small blind of $1
HERO posts the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [Qd Jc]
ddongi folds
Rocky of Poker folds
0_Drunkenboxer raises to $8
Dopeey11 folds
ThoughtyouhadKK folds
Rnuss24 folds
HERO calls $6
*** FLOP *** [Js 8s Jh]
HERO checks
0_Drunkenboxer bets $12
HERO raises to $35
0_Drunkenboxer has 15 seconds left to act
0_Drunkenboxer raises to $58
Melo44 adds $200
HERO raises to $248.35, and is all in
0_Drunkenboxer calls $190.35
HERO shows [Qd Jc]
0_Drunkenboxer shows [As Jd]
*** TURN *** [Js 8s Jh] [2c]
*** RIVER *** [Js 8s Jh 2c] [Kc]
HERO shows three of a kind, Jacks
0_Drunkenboxer shows three of a kind, Jacks
0_Drunkenboxer wins the pot ($510.70) with three of a kind, Jacks
HERO is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $513.70 | Rake $3
Board: [Js 8s Jh 2c Kc]
Seat 1: 0_Drunkenboxer showed [As Jd] and won ($510.70) with three of a kind, Jacks
Seat 2: Dopeey11 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: ThoughtyouhadKK (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: Rnuss24 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: HERO (big blind) showed [Qd Jc] and lost with three of a kind, Jacks
Seat 6: ddongi didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: Marlbro420 is sitting out
Seat 8: Rocky of Poker didn't bet (folded)



0_Drunkenboxer: guess playin back at me doesnt work all the time

[SretiCentV]

I think what we can learn from all this is how big a factor variance plays. These 4 bots play exactly the same over 100k+ hands and their winrates are by far their most un-identical stat

[TonyDanza]

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All of those that are trying to make points about why bots are wrong are missing the point.

Full Tilt's lack of responsiveness to the OP and to this thread are the issues here.

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Even if Sean or Doug don't have a well-thought out response, it would still be nice to come on here and say, "Hey, we're looking into what was said, we will come on here and post later when we know more."

[Ron Burgundy]

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Also, LOL at 'yup we're friends. he taught me to play.'

I don't care who taught whom how to play. There's no way their stats are somehow going to be that similar. Just no way.

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"Taught me how to play" = Taught me how to program my bot.

[TilTandWiN]

PLEASE REPLY FTPDOUG!!!

[1p0kerboy]

Here he is.

[KurtSF]

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PLEASE REPLY FTPSEAN, designated representative of FTP's security team at 2+2!!!

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[tautomer]

Well, apparently FTP recently finished an investigation and didn't find anything so I'm not sure what they can do. Obviously this is bad press for them but unless someone here comes up with extra/new evidence, I highly doubt they'll be reopening the case. Either way, 100K hands of nearly identical stats over a large number of parameters is a bit much to be considered circumstantial.

[TilTandWiN]

This is on his player bio on P5s -

I started poker in 1999. My first 6 months was tragic losing $10,000 (8k on a credit card at paradise poker). I SUCKED AT POKER!! Knowing I loved the game and wouldn't quit playing I started to hit the books learning the game of NLHE. Sklansky was first, then brunsons book. After that I started to be a break even player. But that was not good enuff, I wanted to be a winning player. I then got a program called pokerstat to analyze my game and plug the leaks. And I did. I then switched over to Pokertracker and am still using that to this day. I started out at limit, and am now playing NLHE. I prefer the small stakes of $1-$2 no limit holdem. However, playing 3-4 tables of this wasnt reaching my expected hourly rate. So i trained myself to manage more tables. I added a table every week or so till i got to where I am at today, which is 10 tables. Just recently I took a friend in to teach him how to play. This friend owed me $1800. He didn't have a job and couldn't pay me back. So I decided to try something with him. I asked him to come over to mt house 5 hours a day to play online poker on a computer beside me while i'm playing (to be continued)

[TilTandWiN]

BTW this is the link for his P5s bio -

http://www.pocketfives.com/C18A38DB-...3D40D4C9B.aspx