2008 Presidential primaries thread - Page 33

[censored] · #**321** 02-15-2007, 06:22 PM

I think that was true post 9/11 but I wonder if we have hit post post 9/11 where the older issues will now surface again.

4 High · #**322** 02-15-2007, 06:45 PM

I think we have. I think once Katrina hit, we hit Post Post 9/11.

[censored] · #**323** 02-15-2007, 07:02 PM

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I think we have. I think once Katrina hit, we hit Post Post 9/11.

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yes thinking about this more I there is considerable regret among many for much of the post 9/11 stuff, specifically, how the feelings of being vulnerable and patriotism were used leading up to going to war with Iraq and even re-electing Bush.

If Rudy runs as the 9/11 candidate, i think it would really backfire on him.

CharlieDontSurf · #**324** 02-15-2007, 08:38 PM

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Once the details of his personal life come out in the mainstream (boinking the mistress in the mayor's mansion while still married), I think it's over for him though.

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i thought this personal life stuff has nothing to do with the presidency?

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If he were running as a moderate Dem rudy would be a slam dunk. But when your running for a party that really gets hot and wet about core social issues...gays,abortion,guns etc
Putting up a pres nominee who thinks the opposite of 50-75% of your core supporters will kill you in turnout

JaredL · #**325** 03-01-2007, 12:31 AM

Hope this bump is ok.

One thing I was thinking about today. What ever happened to Frist and Santorum? Both are hardcore conservatives appealing to the base. Santorum was mentioned after he got beaten here in Pennsylvania and I thought Frist didn't run for reelection so he would be able to get a campaign going and that the UIGEA was his play at the conservatives for the primary.

Any chance these two guys run? I very strongly dislike both of them, but wouldn't mind them being nominated because they would IMO have little chance in the generals. I should probably update my beliefs though as I thought the same thing the last presidential election about Bush.

EvanJC · #**326** 03-01-2007, 12:37 AM

neither are running b/c they have no legit shot

4 High · #**327** 03-01-2007, 12:49 AM

Santorum i think is a top VP nominee. I could see a Giuliani/Santorum Ticket to balance out Giuliani's leanings.

Josem · #**328** 03-01-2007, 12:50 AM

Great bump timing... i was thinking about this today.

There this article in Australia's greatest newspaper: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21304839-2703,00.html

At intrade, they have moved McCain to 29.6% chance of winning nomination, and Giuliani to 31%.

This is a massive leap for Giuliani, and a massive fall for McCain.

Any commentary on this?

Also, does anyone have any connections to the Giuliani campaign? I currently work for a Member of the Australian House of Reps and am keen to chat about this...

BigPoppa · #**329** 03-01-2007, 12:57 AM

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Hope this bump is ok.

One thing I was thinking about today. What ever happened to Frist and Santorum? Both are hardcore conservatives appealing to the base. Santorum was mentioned after he got beaten here in Pennsylvania and I thought Frist didn't run for reelection so he would be able to get a campaign going and that the UIGEA was his play at the conservatives for the primary.

Any chance these two guys run? I very strongly dislike both of them, but wouldn't mind them being nominated because they would IMO have little chance in the generals. I should probably update my beliefs though as I thought the same thing the last presidential election about Bush.

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Santorum's prospects died with his Senate seat.

Frist's died with Republican control of the Senate.

nyc999 · #**330** 03-01-2007, 11:18 AM

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Great bump timing... i was thinking about this today.

There this article in Australia's greatest newspaper: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21304839-2703,00.html

At intrade, they have moved McCain to 29.6% chance of winning nomination, and Giuliani to 31%.

This is a massive leap for Giuliani, and a massive fall for McCain.

Any commentary on this?

Also, does anyone have any connections to the Giuliani campaign? I currently work for a Member of the Australian House of Reps and am keen to chat about this...

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New York Magazine just wrote a good article on Guiliani and his chances:

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Santorum's prospects died with his Senate seat.

Frist's died with Republican control of the Senate.

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I agree with this.

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Santorum i think is a top VP nominee. I could see a Giuliani/Santorum Ticket to balance out Giuliani's leanings.

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Santorum as a VP candidate is certainly possible, but I think it would be more likely if he was partnered w/McCain. A New York/Pennsylvania ticket does not seem like a winning combination.