Updated Cliff Notes On Absolute Poker Scandal (18th October)

[apefish]

If that info about Tokwiro is correct Absolute Poker is owned by a company started by the guy who founded the web server campus on which the servers now sit.


Meaning the council is auditing their own [censored].


an english quote...

"Chief Norton has forever changed his community. While many on Bay Street were slow to recognize the Internet’s potential, Chief Norton was already there. He seized the opportunity and founded Mohawk Internet Technologies with an American partner. "

Combined with the claim of ownership of Absolute Poker I think it's clear we can expect transparency.


why the hell isn't there a roll eyes emoticon?

[FoxInTheHenHouse]

It's time to take all the hard evidence, put in a nice neat package and ship it to:

A) all the major news networks and newspapers with the offer to provide interviews with Nat, Josem, etc.

b) the other gaming companies (over 100?) using Kahawake's servers - with a question attached: Could this happen at your site?

c) ???

[phdude]

agreed. I think it is important to find out the depth and breadth of the cheating at absolute, but investigations past the players we are sure of should stay in the speculations thread, and stay out of this one until new cheaters are absolutely 100% verified.

[wobblyau]

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It's time to take all the hard evidence, put in a nice neat package and ship it to:

A) all the major news networks and newspapers with the offer to provide interviews with Nat, Josem, etc.

b) the other gaming companies (over 100?) using Kahawake's servers - with a question attached: Could this happen at your site?

c) ???

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seconded

[Th3_Ic0n]

Make this mainstream, send to all major poker sites and news companies. This needs to get out there in order for them to finally give us the answer we are looking for, in order for their company to still exist.

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to just reinforce what ad said, this is what I said in the last thread

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Guys, please refrain from witch hunts for now. It is pretty scary and could get us into trouble. We have absolute by the balls and we should just keep up the pressure on spreading the news of what we 100% KNOW is cheating.

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The more noise you create the less people will focus on the undeniable facts. Our focus should be on spreading the word and not going on witch hunts. We know cheating exists, we have a very strong case and there is no point diluting our case by going on a witchhunt.

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Can we have a witch-hunt-thread then? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

McBill and Oscar133 are so suspicious.

But I understand completely, I wont post anymore witch-huntish. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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it is appalllinggggg to me that you guys do not find kohleppel suspicious. Only 1st places? Cmon now... there has to be more to this does ANYONE have hand histories with that guy???????

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you missed my screen shot of ALL of his tournaments. What was posted were his cashes.

[ibluffoldladies]

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If that info about Tokwiro is correct Absolute Poker is owned by a company started by the guy who founded the web server campus on which the servers now sit.


Meaning the council is auditing their own [censored].

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Not only that Apefish, but the implications here go way beyond Absolute Poker. The really big story, as I've said throughout this ordeal, centers around the KGC. I'm trying to think of reasons why so many "legit" online poker sites would want to use a fraud licensing company headed by crooks. HMMMMMM.

[adanthar]

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If that info about Tokwiro is correct Absolute Poker is owned by a company started by the guy who founded the web server campus on which the servers now sit.


Meaning the council is auditing their own [censored].

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Not only that Apefish, but the implications here go way beyond Absolute Poker. The really big story, as I've said throughout this ordeal, centers around the KGC. I'm trying to think of reasons why so many "legit" online poker sites would want to use a fraud licensing company headed by crooks. HMMMMMM.

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I think KGC runs a server facility that is very helpful for providing services to the US market.

For those of you unfamiliar with how the internet works, I doubt Isle of Man or Costa Rica type of locations are good spots for servers that need to have 100% internet connection uptime.

I'm just guessing, but I'd be SHOCKED if the KGC server facility didn't have access to multiple backbones. Does anyone know about backbone access in that area of the world?

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THE PLAYERS
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ABSOLUTE POKER
"Absolute Poker and the Absolute Poker website are solely owned and operated by Tokwiro Enterprises ENRG, Route 138, Kahnawake, Quebec J0L 1B0. Tokwiro Enterprises ENRG is owned by a Mohawk of Kahnawake and is operated from the sovereign nation of the Mohawks of Kahnawake, located near Montreal Quebec."

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Here's some more info that was sent to me about Tokwiro:

"According to the Quebec Business Registrar, Tokwiro Enterprises Enrg belongs fully to Joe Norton.

Joe Norton is the former chief of the Kahnawake Council AND the founder of the Kahnawake Gaming Commission. He is also involved in the Mohawk Internet technologies, the company that is hosting most of the online casinos registered with the KGC.

His full name is Joseph Tokwiro Norton."

I was also given this link http://www.registreentreprises.gouv....n/default.aspx

Apparently it contains a lot of info about Joe Norton, but a lot of what I've found is in french and I can't understand it. But I can tell that people here will be able to find a lot of info there, get looking. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Just doing some searches on their dossiers, and this one seemed kinda interesting.. Scott Tom = Tom Scott?

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2007-10-18 LE REGISTRAIRE DES ENTREPRISES
R-PU-U04-1 SYSTÈME CIDREQ

ÉTAT DES INFORMATIONS SUR UNE ENTREPRISE INDIVIDUELLE
INFORMATIONS GÉNÉRALES
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NO FCE: 30744197 NOM: SCOTT, TOM

DATE RÉVISION : 1992-12-01
DATE FORMATION :
ÉTAT JURIDIQUE : 03 DOSSIER ACTIF
DATE ÉTAT JURIDIQUE: 1992-11-10
CONTINUE PAR :
GROUPE JURDQ : 002
ENTR. IND. AVEC DÉCLAR. RAISON SOCIALE
NO REGROUPEMENT : 0
MEMBRE DE :
SOUS CONTRAT AVEC :
REMARQUE :
ADR. SIEGE SOCIAL : KAHNAWAKE (LAPRAIRIE) STATUT : E EN ERREUR
LOCLT: 67802
EMPLOYÉS QUÉBEC : N NON DÉCLARÉ
EMPLOYÉS CANADA : N NON DÉCLARÉ
DATE DE MAJ FCE : 1993-12-06
ACTIVITÉS ECONOMIQUES
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4261 TRAVAUX D'ELECTRICITE
5621 COMMERCE GROS ARTICLES DE QUINCAILLERIE

ADRESSE POSTALE
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ADRESSE : C.P. 447 CODE POSTAL: J0L 1B0
KAHNAWAKE (LAPRAIRIE)
STATUT: U UTILISABLE

ÉTABLISSEMENTS
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NOM ADRESSE
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SCOTT, TOM KAHNAWAKE (LAPRAIRIE)

ÉTABLISSEMENT PRINC : NON
DATE DE DÉBUT UTIL NOM: DATE DÉBUT: 1992-11-10
DATE DE FIN UTIL NOM : DATE FIN : 1992-12-01

ACTIVITÉS ÉCONOMIQUES DE L'ÉTABLISSEMENT
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TRAVAUX D'ELECTRICITE
COMMERCE GROS ARTICLES DE QUINCAILLERIE
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RAISONS SOCIALES
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RAISONS SOCIALES DATE DEBUT DATE FIN STATUT
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SYSTEMES DE SECURITE T. SCOTT 1992-11-10 EN VIGUEUR

T. SCOTT SECURITY SYSTEMS 1992-11-10 EN VIGUEUR


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